Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff B. Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator in favor of nominating each article separately. (non-admin closure) clpo13_(talk) 07:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff B. Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow[edit]

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Jeff Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow were previously deleted in November 2014 via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brett Leve. Note, their creation moved pre-existing articles, so an ensuing page move (revert) has backfilled an original Jeff Rosenthal per that AfD. And, I am the author of the AfD.

Today, Jeff B. Rosenthal was recreated by a WP:SPA of Special:Contributions/JaredAskipoloma.

Elliott Bisnow was recreated in January 2015 by another single-edit, WP:SPA of Special:Contributions/Antontha_gonzales.

Reiterating the original AfD arguments of WP:NOTADVERTISING, WP:BASIC, and WP:PROMO as content is functionally similar/identical to the now deleted articles. Defer to closing admin if WP:SALT is appropriate. UW Dawgs (talk) 01:04, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no notability demonstrated.--Rpclod (talk) 07:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify my recommendation based on below comment of Martinogk (talk), I was recommending to delete the articles regarding Jeff B. Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow. I do not believe that the article on Jeff Rosenthal is under consideration.--Rpclod (talk) 14:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Definitely agree with above re: notability in the current state. Did a quick search and seeing Washington Post, Fast Company, NYT profiles.. some not used in the article. This needs a substantial re-write rather than a promo one-liner lede. Could use a couple sweeps to clean the puffery. Jppcap (talk) 22:16, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as the current coverage is simply not convincing enough and although I found some more at News and browser ("Jeff B. Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow Summit Series") there's still simply nothing better. SwisterTwister talk 05:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I found multiple sources where the individuals are the subjects as entrepreneurs rather than about the Summit Series. However, this article should be closer to a stub and would benefit from multiple cuts. Tangledupinbleu chs (talk) 02:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:41, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There are links to both Jeff Rosenthal and Jeff B. Rosenthal. The former is a very notable statistician, that is widely cited and a fellow of the Institute of Mathematical Statistics. Keep Jeff Rosenthal. I am Neutral on Jeff B. Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow. Martinogk (talk) 11:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment as nominator. The AfD scope is Jeff B. Rosenthal and Elliott Bisnow. Based on some comments of soft support, that appears to be unclear to some editors (due to the long context in the intro). It may make sense to relist as two separate AfDs. Defer to the closing admin. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - On the same page with all editors that Rosenthal (Canada) is notable given the awards he has received. I see that's not the discussion here just making sure lol. Rosenthal/Bisnow (Summit Series): There are several videos and news articles that show some notable coverage independent of the conference and about their background specifically. There's no need for Bisnow (and Rosenthal for that matter) to have drawn out articles with bios though. Significant independent coverage for the subject here -- prefaced it should be short. News Team Assemble!^[talk?] 17:43, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am confuse what is going on here? There appear to be three articles listed, and linked to an AfD about a fourth person. Maybe I'm just a little slow, but I would strongly suggest that an admin should close as no consensus, paving the way for new, separate nominations. I can't be the only one confused by this, and that confusion is going to change, or at least hinder, consensus. FWIW, Jeff Rosenthal the statistician is clearly notable. Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn as nominator, explicitly to relist separately and reduce confusion. UW Dawgs (talk) 17:46, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now relisted as two AfDs, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Rosenthal (businessman) (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elliott Bisnow (2nd nomination)

This AfD should be closed. UW Dawgs (talk) 23:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.