Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Jason
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. I think a good WP:TL;DR summary of the following discussion is: obviously passes WP:GNG, obviously has WP:COI, obviously bad article. In other words, lots of problems, but deletion is not the solution. Deryck C. 22:57, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Jay Jason[edit]
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Entertainer of questionable notability; contested prod. Only current reference is a YouTube video - several claims of notability, but no references to back it up. Google searches are inconclusive at present, due to the common name, but I can find little from reliable sources to corroborate the claims presented. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Since +"Jay Jason" comedian born 1915 returns nothing, this is either a non-notable person or a hoax. GregorB (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Does not appear to be a hoax. I found a blog post about him from his cousin: [1]. I'll see what else I can find working off that. Location (talk) 21:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Brief mentions: [2], [3], [4], [5] (last one likely not a RS). Linked to Kenny Kramer and Borscht Belt: [6]. I suspect that he may have had regional notability beyond these sources, but I don't have the proof. Location (talk) 22:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment.
- Dear Editors:
- Is there a way I could talk to you on the phone. I am just learning about the WIKI system, so am not sure I am even filling this out right. I have been trying to document things for Jay Jason, and he was an entertainer who was well known in the Catskills and beyond. The data I collected was from interviewing him before he died, which was about a decade ago. I have reduced much of the material, but if I could have a direct discussion with one of the editors, it would be most helpful to me. After spending literally hours trying to put this together, I would like to try to preserve something if possible, even if it is just a paragraph. Jay was on Candid Camera, and he was a good friend of many of the leading comedians; I know as they were over my family's house often. I have requested several books from the library where his name is mentioned, but it might take me some time to get those references. One that was connected was with the character Kramer. The YouTube tapes are also proof on his abilities, and you might want to take a look at them as well. Is there a way I can talk to you directly?
- Sincerely,
- Lenny Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Editor: I am the person who put this together, and I just did a quick search on google and came up with multiple citations when I put in the search term: "Jay Jason" catskill comic they are below:
Here are about 12 minutes of a 90 minute routine of one of the most popular Catskill comics. Jay Jason entertained from 1932 until 2000, and this routine ... http://www.royacosta.com/0/tag/Catskill.html
Jay Jason, a Catskill comedian, impersonates Alfred Hitchcock. Jason was one of the best Borscht Belt comics. His career spanned from 1932 until 2000. ... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=95738189804&v=wall
Jay Jason's imitation of one of the great entertainers from the past. Jason was on the best known Catskill comics of the 1950s through 2000. http://firstpost.com/topic/person/arthur-godfrey-arthur-godfrey-impersonation-video-tS8WWrUR7VI-35049-1.html
Jay Jason, one of America's funniest comics, entertains at a Catskill hotel in the early 1990s. Jason's career spanned from 1932 until 2000. ... http://shiou.ws/Jason+(comics)/
Jay Jason's imitation of one of the great entertainers from the past. Jason was on the best known Catskill comics of the 1950s through 2000. ... http://www.musicrang.com/video/0/tag/Jason%20(comics).html
Dec 28, 2011 – ... the Catskills that was performed by one of the most popular comedians; Jay Jason. ... Tags: catskill, comedy, humor, jason, jay, jewish, tribute http://www.blog-humour.net/2012/01/finale-of-catskill-comedy-routine/
Here are about 12 minutes of a 90 minute routine of one of the most popular Catskill comics. Jay Jason entertained from 1933 until 2000, and this routine ... http://cityinsider.com/videos/Catskill_NY/
http://www.enough.com/?keyword=jason%20gainza%2F%2F%2F&page=10 Jay Jason, a Catskill comedian, impersonates Alfred Hitchcock. Jason was one of the best Borscht Belt comics. ...
Here are about 12 minutes of a 90 minute routine of one of the most popular Catskill comics. Jay Jason entertained from 1932 until 2000, and this routine ... http://gabya.net/yotube/tubevideo-%20catskills+
Here is the four part conclusion of a club date in the Catskills that was ... tags: Comedy Catskill comedy humor Jay Jason Jewish Jay Jason Tribute Comedy ... http://jiwang.org/0/tag/Admired.html
Jay Jason's imitation of one of the great entertainers from the past. Jason was on the best known Catskill comics of the 1950s through 2000. ... http://www.unmissabletv.com/video/youtube/search/godfrey/video/yPjkwEZqW2Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Jay Jason's imitation of one of the great entertainers from the past. Jason was on the best known Catskill comics of the 1950s through 2000. ... http://tankmo.com/modules/clip/index.php?name=clip&vid=9eA9OPbPnS4&feature=youtube_gdata_player&des=Jay%20&%20Maui%20Wedding
Catskill comedy humor Jay Jason Jewish Jay Jason Tribute. Here is the four part conclusion of a club date in the Catskills that was performed by one of the
http://shiou.ws/clubdate/
Jay Jason, a hit comic in the Catskill mountains, gives his impersonation of Maurice Chevalier. Jason started his career in the early 1930s after watching a film ...
http://www.cinema.abonnement-gratuit.com/tag/catskill+film/1
Comedy Routine Jay Jason, one of America's funniest comics, entertains at a Catskill hotel in the..
http://www.indiaeveryday.in/video/u/JayJasonTribute.htm?ss=true
Here are about 12 minutes of a 90 minute routine of one of the most popular Catskill comics. Jay Jason entertained from 1932 until 2000, and this routine was ... http://www.videos3.filecage.com/Catskills/
Jay Jason, one of America's funniest comics, entertains at a Catskill hotel in the ... Jay Jason, a hit comic in the Catskill mountains, gives his impersonation of http://icalltv.com/%2BCatskill/
Jay Jason, one of the funniest comics in the Catskill mountains, ends his routine with a warm song and receives a standing ovation. Jason was among a handful ... http://www.skrao.net/videos/catskills/page2.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry folks about not signing these previous posts: I am still learning the system. --Jaytribute516 15:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
- If I understand correctly, these links are all videos of his performances. These prove that he existed, but do they: 1) prove his notability, and 2) support the article's content? For example: how do we know he was born in 1915 and died in 2001? ("Know", in terms of reliable sources that support these two facts.) Basic biographical details like these are the bare minimum to satisfy the general notability guideline. An obituary might help. If you can't find his obituary published anywhere, then he certainly does not pass the notability threshold. GregorB (talk) 16:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you George for your comments. I am Jay's son, so I grew up in a show business family. I have nothing to do with show business, and am an academic psychologist at DePaul University. I am new to Wiki, so am learning a lot, and thank you all for the guidance, although some of the comments about what I put together have been a bit tough to hear. In a sense, my dad died before the popularity of the internet, and the last years of his life, in his mid 80s, he was certainly less active, although he regularly performed for 65 years in comedy, and by that standard, he certainly had a career that matches many other Catskill comics you have posted. Before he died over a decade ago, I did interview him many times and tried to retrieve a number of stories from his life (and I also tried to verify stories with family members and his friends). So, the question becomes about how we deal with qualitative information. In a sense, our oldest books are often stories told by someone, and then we either believe or do not believe them. If there are multiple sources for this information, our credibility does increase for the validity of this data. But some individuals will have less on the internet about them as they were popular at times in the past, before so much was more publicly available. If a person was an artist, and composed a mural, you would be able to see and marvel at the creation, and then you have proof that the person was an artist (particularly if you felt it had some merit). That is just one example of proof, and if would vary depending on who was the judge. If I have tapes that I have put on YouTube, and you can then see a person's performance, is this not some proof of the authenticity of the person. If there are tapes from more than one place (such as what I posted, one from the early 1990s and the other from 1961), does that not also count as some authenticity. If you were to watch/listen to these tapes and make a decision about the quality of his performance, is that not similar to what you might do regarding other artistic performance. I only raise these issues with you as I find this entire discussion about verification rather interesting, and as I had thought that Wiki allowed an audience to participate in the process, some of the edits and proofs could accumulate over time as people read the piece. I have had at least 25 people comment to me about how they liked the piece I wrote, and many of them did know my dad. They are of a generation that would not know how to even register for WIKI, and I am rather new to this as well, so getting comments is a bit tough for the friends and colleagues of Jay. Once again, I do appreciate your feedback and I have reduced the entry to the very basic, and will await your decision about whether it is worthy of being posted.--Jaytribute516 17:38, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
- Editing (even understanding, for that matter) Wikipedia is difficult for new editors, so I hope you don't get discouraged. My advice would be: please read Wikipedia's general notability guideline (just this section of the target page) - it is rather short, it is reasonably clear, and it explains the minimum requirements for passing the notability threshold. You might also take a look at what is required in terms of verifiability. Also, please remember that, if the article should get deleted, this outcome is not final: if it is recreated in the future, equipped with reliable sources that show notability, it should be kept. GregorB (talk) 19:17, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Gregory for your helpful statements. As I have read many pages on Wiki, it does appear that the standards are somewhat variable. I wonder whether there are any standards for giving relatively new authors feedback. As you might imagine, seeing this printed on a page about my dad that he was "either a non-notable person or a hoax" is somewhat strongly worded, and are there any standards available for the types of feedback given to authors; and I must say, I have appreciated very much the more constructive and kind dialogue you have given. --Jaytribute516 19:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
- I apologize for my rather blunt statement, I could have worded it in a more tactful way. I made a quick check which is usually enough to separate fictitious or non-notable entries (it is sometimes hard to distinguish between the two) from notable ones. Of course, Google search is not reliable because printed (or, as we call them, "offline") sources also contribute towards someone's notability, so the absence of online sources does not really prove anything. This means that what I wrote might as well be wrong. If there is evidence supporting the case for notability, I'll strike out my "Delete" vote. GregorB (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Gregory: I appreciate your thoughts on this, and have looked at several of the sources you mentioned. It does say that Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media." This is very helpful to know. There are several clips of Jay Jason's performance that are on the website, so viewers can see the actual media performance. It would seem that might be one factor to consider. In addition, his 65 years in show business would suggest longevity, which seems to be another criteria. He worked consistently and was one of the more popular entertainers in the Catskills for generations. The one source does say that Kramer was a driver for my dad up to the mountains, so that does confirm that he drove a comedian to the Catskills. I might add that many others did so who later achieved some fame. The blog that I also just discovered that I inserted as a reference gives another source written several years ago about who Jay was. Once again, thanks for your constructive advice, and for a novice at this, I certainly made my fair share of mistakes, and have a better understanding of this process now. You have been most helpful, and I appreciate your guidance.
--Jaytribute516 20:36, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
It is now Sat morning, and yesterday I did some searching for materials from three time periods of Jay Jason's life during three periods of time; early, mid and late. I will be putting some of this material on this page over the next few hours. I want to thank you again for this opportunity to respond to your comments. I certainly did make a number of mistakes and should have better informed myself of your policies before posting. I do want you to know a bit more about myself, as I collected this information and I had posted the material on your site. I am a psychologist and have a recent book on methods that I have edited that will be soon published by the American Psychological Association. I have published over 500 peer reviewed articles and many books. I have also received many federal grants for research. As the son of Jay Jason, I engaged in a qualitative process of interviewing him over a four year period before he died in 2001. As I knew that he had many stories from a career that began in the early 1930s, I thought it would be good to document some of his life experiences and interactions. I knew personally many of the people he talked about as they had been frequent guests at my parents' house. I was not intending to write a book on him, as I have a number of research areas that I am devoted to. As I interviewed my dad, I would ask him questions about who he had known and interacted with, whether they were politicians such as the Kennedy brothers or famous mobsters. Most of his close relations were with entertainers that he had grown up with since the early 1930s when his career began in the midwest. As I interviewed him, there were many stories that I was able to have an independent source verify, and those were the primary ones that I posted. Some of those sources are no longer alive, which does complicate this verification process. There were also a number of stories that I felt I would never be able to verify, such as interactions with famous politicians, so I did not include those entries. I tried to be as conservative as possible in posting what I believed to be verifiable. My dad had an excellent memory, even in his 80s, but of course, I am sure that there were some inaccuries. On the other hand, as I was not familiar with the Wiki standards of verification, I now recognize the need for even more verification, and certainly as a public source of data, I can understand that you want to get the facts correct. I was under the misunderstanding that once an entry was posted on Wiki, others could comment so that over time the facts could be weaned of the weaker or inaccurate elements. In any event, it was my own lack of preparation for this task that I now regret.
As I mentioned, I have several sources that I will post this morning, and I am hoping that they will allow you to recognize that my posting was not a hoax, and that my father did live and had a long career in show business. As he died before the internet became popular, the newspaper articles are not readily available on google or other sites, but I will provide you the sources of the articles so you can read about what others said about him from several public sources. I again appreciate the opportunity to respond to your legitimate issues, and I am now working on putting these materials together and they will be posted this later today.
--Jaytribute516 13:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
Dear Gregory and other editors: As you can imagine, I have tons of newspaper and other pre-Internet materials on my dad, and I will try to give some examples from three different eras, and will provide you not only with praises but some mixed reviews, in the interest of trying to be fair. None of these news and magazine articles were written for publicity purposes nor did Jay pay for any of these articles. The first exhibit provides evidence that Jason was a Midwestern comic in the early phase of his career, and this story is from a 1950 newspaper in Columbus, Ohio. (I have the copy of this article as well as advertisements concerning his being in a starring role at this nightclub): Christopher, H. Life just a gag to Jay Jason’s family; Jay’s the straight man. Columbus Star, May 20, 1950. In this article, the reporter mentions that “Jay Jason, the current Palm Garden Headliner…As a matter of fact, Jay, his pretty brunette wife, Lynn; Dianne and year-old Lennie, manage to settle down in most of the cities the comic works. Anything under four weeks as an engagement seems like a one-night-stand. One appearance ran into 70 weeks.” And later: “Because Jason becomes a community fixture he finds many calls for guest appearances, benefit performances. Local television guest shows also come all too easy, calling Jason from his own T-V and where he monitors many of the better comics. Little Dianne, who had not been much of a video fan, was converted the first time she saw ‘Daddy’ on the screen at home. When Lennie, too, is watching the screen but still finds most satisfaction in reaching for the volume control just when Berle is coming up with a punch line Jason had spilled some seconds before.” And later: “His wallop-packing entertainment is a matter of timing. Similarly, the varied activities, the full home life that Jason manages in a business that all too often has to put these things into the background, show his full use of his time. ‘There is no business like show business,’ Jason says. And to fit the Jason story, this rising star seems to have made some personal improvements, upon this exacting, self-sacrificing profession.”
As evidence that Jay did play many of the top night clubs in the country, I have this notice below as well as documentation that he did perform at this famous nightclub, as well as the next piece about a birthday for his son attended by other entertainers. (I have all these documents): McHarry, Charles. On the Town. Daily News. Feb. 19, 1962. “After waiting 20 years, comic Jay Jason is getting his big chance. He opens at the Latin Quarter Wednesday. From the New York Mirror, Feb. 25, 1962. Latin Quarter Hit. The Late Spots. “E.M. Loew and Ed Risman really went to town for this new edition of ‘Manhttan [sp] Holiday.’ Also new on the bill is a personable comedian named Jay Jayson. Jayson starts slowly, then gets into action with some chuckle provoking material (that forces you to think) but he’s on a little too long. When the fault is ironed out, as I’m sure it is by now, Jayson will enjoy big hands every night.” From a newspaper called The Record, March 12, 1962. Bar Mitzvah. Leonard Jason observes rites in Teaneck Community Center. “The boy’s father is the current comedy star at the Latin Quarter in New York city. Many show business personalities attended the service including Jackie Mason, Phil Foster, Norman Dean, Lew Black, Davey Starr, Jackie Kahane, Corbett Monica, Gene Baylos, Marilyn Maxwell, Tony Drake, Laura Lane, Tina Robin and Bea Kalmus.”
As an example of one of many letters that he received from agents, see below (I do have the copy of this letter). In a letter dated July 31, 1992, Nate Raider of Nate Raider productions sent a letter to Jay saying “Your performance Wednesday evening at the Pinegrove Golf & Country Club was outstanding. You were the hit of the season…Once again thank you. You made me look very good.”
I also have a copy of this front page story in the Newsday magazine, which was an insert in many newspapers on the east coast at this time. Vincent, Stuart. Mr. Thursday Night. The Comic’s Comic. Newsday, Oct. 5, 1992. Page 48-49, 51. On the front page, under this title, it states: “He is the consummate Catskills comic. Unlike Billy Crystal’s ‘Mr. Saturday Night,’ Jay Jason is still getting laughs.” This is a long article so I will just quote several sections: “Jay Jason—you remember. You’ve probably seen him if you’ve been to one of the Borscht Belt hotels in the Catskills with your temple, your church, your parents, your cousins. A funny man. A comic’s comic. An entertainer for 60 years—impressionist, singer, even has a few dance steps in him.” “Jason never quite made it to the big time. Oh, he’s played the Las Vegas hotels and Manhattan night clubs, appeared on “The Ed Sullivan Show” three times. But he never reached the top rung of comics of his day—Milton Berle, Henny Youngman, Danny Thomas, Jack Benny, Jackie Mason.” “Mason told me, “You’ve got all the talent in the world, but you’ll never be a star because you don’t have that drive,” he says. Jason says that doesn’t bother him much. “I always worked as much as I wanted.” “But unlike Crystal’s character, Jason at 76 has no doubt he’s still funny. Nor do the hotels, or the 950 senior citizens bused in from all over the Northeast, from Pennsylvania to Ontario, and laughing themselves silly in the Persian Room nightclub at the Pines on a Thursday afternoon. For 40 minutes, Jason has the audience laughing, singing, saying “Ooooh” in a chorus that rippled through the audience like a senior wave. He does impersonations—Cagney, Chevalier, Jolson, even some living entertainers. They respond with applause.” “He gets a standing ovation.” “For 40 years, Jay Jason has traipsed along the back roads of the Catskill Mountains to the bungalow colonies and resort hotels in such places as Ellenville and South Fallsburg and Greenfield Park. Since before there was a “Quickway”—Route 17 to those passing through on the way to Binghamton—before such hotels as Grossingers and the Windsor, Young’s Gap and the Flagler and the Stevensville died.” “Not that the man never left the Catskills. Born Jonas Levy in Rochester, the grandson of a Russian cantor, he sang in the synagogue choir along with his father and two uncles. He traveled to Buffalo for amateur shows. Then, barely 19 years old, he left the University of Rochester after two years for his first major date at Kacees of Toledo, Ohio. They kept him on for a year and a half.” “Milton Berle could be playing down the street, and I would outdraw him. That’s how popular I was, ‘says Jason.’” “He knew Berle, Benny, Skelton, Thomas. Not to mention their real names. He opened for Ellington, Armstrong. He knew Andrew Dice Clay when he was still Andy Silverstein, the drummer in a three-piece band at the Delmar Hotel. The Delmar is gone. Jay Jason is still there, doing three, four shows a week. He used to do more than that in one day.” “His prized clip isn’t about himself. It’s about a $500,000 research grant obtained by his son, Leonard, a psychologist… (at DePaul University) ‘it happens to be a Catholic yeshiva,’ he says. ‘He’s with priests and nuns there…He wrote eight books. And that’s the star of our family. I hate to tell you that.’ (this summer) “he and Arnell appeared in a Catskills comic come to Long Island shore.” “Arnell, who has known Jason for 35 years, … (says)’He’s got something a lot of comedians don’t have: A funny bone. He’s got that twinkle in his eye. I see a lot of these young people…most of them are better writers than they are comedians…They’re not funny off stage. They’re not even funny on the stage. They just repeat what they write really well.” “In the insular world of the Borscht Belt, he’s a celebrity… ‘He’s a legend up here. Everyone puts the Catskills down, but a lot of these so-called big comedians got a lot of their shtick from him,’ said Howie Teck, a Tamarack waiter who started working in the hotels as a college student and never left.” “Then there are the guests, elderly men and women who have seen Jason so many times they feel as if they’re old friends. Jason treats them accordingly. Outside the Persian Room, a man with a name tag identifying him as “Irvin Hackerman,” part of Social Security judges, runs up to Jason. He was Jason’s company commander in Camp Sibert, Ala., during World War II, when Jason served in a Special Services unit that entertained at air bases throughout Europe. Jason notes that Red Skelton and Mickey Rooney were also in the unit.” “Jason and his audiences are growing old together. These are his people.” “Jane Behnken and Jean Murtian, with the Happy Seniors from Methodist Church in Totowa, N.J., are laughing as they leave the Nite Club. ‘He was the best,’ Behnken says. “The comedian was unbelievable. He was fantastic. I never laughed so hard. For an elderly man, he has a very good memory. He has a good delivery,’ Murtian says. “’He’s not foul, he’s not vulgar,’ says Jim Burnett...’He’s great,’ says his wife.
My dad worked his entire life, starting about 1933 and lasting until a year before his death in 2001. In terms of longevity, that probably counts for something. I would imagine that he probably played at least 5 shows a week for over 65 years. With an audience average of about 100 people (sometimes larger and sometimes smaller), the math comes out to over a million and a half (not counting those he entertained during radio and TV appearances).
I hope that you are able to view a few of the attachments that are on the link so you can make you own opinion regarding the merits of this possible entry in your site. --Jaytribute516 18:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
Dear editor: Made a small mistake with the material about as I added a space to one paragraph, and now have taken it out. I did not mean to put more attention on that one paragraph, so now it is corrected. Will now add a few references to the Wiki article that are cited in the above to provide some more verification that Jay Jason did exist, his career did span for a period from the 1930s, and that he did have many show business friends. I will PDF several of these articles in case you should want to see the entire text. --Jaytribute516 13:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason
Dear Editors: I have now made PDFs of all the newspaper accounts that I mentioned above, and would be willing to share with you should you want to examine them. --Jaytribute516 18:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
- I wouldn't mind taking a look at them, but it would probably be best to post them in Talk:Jay Jason. Location (talk) 18:33, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have the articles and put it on the Talk:Jay Jason site so you can find the link there to the google account. If you have any difficulties with finding them, I can send them all to you in another way.
--Jaytribute516 15:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
- Keep per WP:GNG despite the obvious and admitted WP:COI issue. Bearian (talk) 18:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good point about conflict of interest, and as I understand it now:
"Closeness to a subject does not mean you're incapable of being neutral, but it may incline you towards some bias. Be guided by the advice of other editors. If editors on a talk page suggest in good faith that you may have a conflict of interest, try to identify and minimize your biases, and consider withdrawing from editing the article. As a rule of thumb, the more involvement you have with a topic in real life, the more careful you should be with our core content policies." I have tried to write this with some objective evidence and have tried to minimize bias, but I now do understand the point you are making.--Jaytribute516 17:06, 17 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
One way of making a decision about the quality of a artist's work is to view his/her performances. YOu can look at some of the clips I posted on YouTube regarding Jay Jason in the early 1990s, when he was in his 70s.
Comedy at its Best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnS-OA5zpKo
Best Impersonations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Px1-5CCrv0
Family Jokes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_o95M84n6E
Political Jokes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSo3sCf6_dk
Others:
Jay Jason Routine: the opening of his 90 minute routine begins here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hng2e0oHVcc
Buddhist and anorexia jokes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMgqPghlHU4
Comedy routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZyh3m-eD2Q&feature=plcp&context=C3005395UDOEgsToPDskJy7yJBvk6WUaQftBhiiqDG
Marriage jokes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgZ06iB3Uh4
Son-in-Law jokes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnrhsAoIyU
Son Jokes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAVzIse69Hc
Oil Crisis and Congress joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zffxMO_z1vs
Smoking Joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbS_qDHeu2c
Machines of War: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXEreuS0Tsk
Ventriloquest routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYJqKCnwiAs
Franklin Roosevelt Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYxGFsTCeA&feature=g-upl&context=G2f95bfaAUAAAAAAAGAA
Alfred Hitchcock Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCsFAf4jtGI
Jackie Mason impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWDMHlqwic
Jack Benny Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6mkUKFIsgM
Maurice Chevalier Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPIGNEPtajY&feature=context&context=C3005395UDOEgsToPDskJy7yJBvk6WUaQftBhiiqDG
Rudolph Valentino Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1cjevXuo8U
Hunchback Notre Dame Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXB5kV-KS5c
Jimmy Stewart Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsa1mIgo-RQ
Arthur Godfrey Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS8WWrUR7VI&feature=related
Ted Lewis Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNPHJH4Df5M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Ezio Pinza Impersonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn3mY9yIdHA&feature=context&context=C3005395UDOEgsToPDskJy7yJBvk6WUaQftBhiiqDG
Mario Lanza impersonation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3negIfDMc
Eddie Cantor Impersonation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrooVZD6hXU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Finale of Catskill Comedy Routine (Parts 1-4): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu50QYHzuos&feature=related
--Jaytribute516 17:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)
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I have added this reference to the article: Tommy Moore, T. (2011). A Ph.D. in happiness from the Great Comedians. Bloomington: IUniverse, Inc. On page 135, Moore mentions that during his college years, he would watch great comics at the Downingtown Inn, and among the comedians that he mentions is Jay Jason.--Jaytribute516 13:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)