Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Gerken

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Gerken[edit]

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Contested PROD. Only the Kansas City Star article qualifies for notability. The Jesus Freak Hideout article is about an album and only mentions the subject in passing. Similar to other links. The rest are similarly poor sources. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:09, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Human3015^TALK 05:22, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Human3015^TALK 05:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As a member of several notable bands he satisfies WP:NMUSIC and there are sources that can be cited to verify the basic facts, e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. --Michig (talk) 09:40, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- That's nonsense. Show me where the subject himself gets coverage. He himself is not notable. See WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - What on Earth are you on about? See WP:NMUSIC#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles #6. --Michig (talk) 13:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - What are you on about: "may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria" (emphasis mine). Just because they meet one of the criteria does not mean that the subject is notable. This subject has only had one feature story about him. That tells me that he is not notable. If he were notable, he would get more than passing mentions in the articles that mention his name as a member of the band. So let me ask you again, what are you on about? NMUSIC is not stand-alone criteria that presumes that anyone who meets any criteria automatically deserves a Wikipedia article. You've tried to make this an absolute criteria in the past and have been told you're wrong in the past. This is just one more instance. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      - You've been told several times that the GNG is not the only notability criterion but it never seems to sink in and you continue to insist that GNG is satisfied every time. Now that you've found the relevant guideline it should be clear that what I wrote is not 'nonsense', even if you disagree with it. I am applying what WP:N actually states. You are not. --Michig (talk) 14:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        I'm sorry that you think I'm relying only on GNG. I'm not. I'm relying on a clear understanding of notability. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:40, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Return to author's userspace as a compromise as I am split because the article would seem minimally acceptable but until then, userfying may be best until a better article is available as "Jason Gerken drummer producer" found some links at Books and browser but not much. SwisterTwister talk 05:37, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 02:29, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 00:23, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.