Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jarly

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The result was delete. Sandstein 18:52, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jarly[edit]

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He has worked as part of the production team for famous articles, but is not famous himself. Does not have significant coverage. Mvqr (talk) 14:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Mvqr (talk) 14:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Mvqr (talk) 14:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Mvqr (talk) 14:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point - the subject is not famous in a media logic sense. But is fame really a requisite for a Wikipedia article? According to guidelines as far as I can read, it seems to be notability? Creating "famous" works should perhaps be within the realm of notability? Kransen (talk) 15:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. When I read the article I thought that of course he is notable if he wrote all those notable songs. But when I checked the sources it looks like he mostly worked as a producer. I am not convinced that is enough of an artistic contribution to outweigh the lack of WP:GNG coverage. Sjö (talk) 15:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As a further point, in the more notable productions he was involved in, he is one of several producers in the credits on the Wikipedia articles. However, taking Came Here for Love as an example, this was added today by an IP and Jarly doesn't appear in the credits of discogs. Mvqr (talk) 16:10, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Really what you are suggesting is that working in a team renders the team members not notable? And also record producers are per se not notable if they didn't also write the music they produce? Both very biased views, and not fit for a discussion on the topic of deleting a specific page, rather an interesting philosophical one on the various roles in music and their importance? But back to the topic - you want to delete the page of a record producer while their music has been awarded with as many as 8 UK Platinum awards (8 x 600 000 sales), with the argument that it's not notable enough? What does a record producer have to do in your eyes to be worthy of a Wikipedia page?

As to the Discogs comment - I have no idea why they are not listing the actual label copy like the Spotify/Tidal and Genius do, Discogs is afaik crowdsourced with somewhat less strict guidelines than Wikipedia. Kransen (talk) 17:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Has there been anything written about Jarl/Jarly anywhere? I couldn't find anything beyond listing his name in the sources, and failed to contribute anything when I tried to look through the Swedish newspaper archive for new sources. //Julle (talk) 13:53, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there is no sign anything has been written about Jarly elsewhere, which means this article is built of very thin foundations. Would be very happy to switch to keep if someone could point to better sources. //Julle (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.