Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janna Abdmoneim

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 18:28, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Janna Abdmoneim[edit]

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I removed a CSD tag because I don't think it is an obvious hoax. But the tagger said this:

"Fake links and hoax, doesn’t meet the requirements"

I do not know Arabic at all, so I have no way of confirming this statement. But her name is not listed on Miss Egypt, even though the article said she won it. funplussmart (talk) 12:03, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, this person does appear to exist, but the article appears to contain false information with fake references (possibly to promote her YouTube channel?) funplussmart (talk) 13:33, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ (see below) - Sources are legit, and it's definitely not a hoax. The article has many issues, including WP:PROMOTION. But this is grounds for improvement, not deletion. I'll try to rewrite some of it tomorrow. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 15:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am only repeating what EgyptianTyphoon's concerns were. He thinks it should be deleted, so I'm waiting for him to say something about this. funplussmart (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of this. Didn't say that you thought it should be deleted. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~If he fails to explain why he thinks it should be deleted, we'll Speedy Keep this AfD.~~ (He did) funplussmart (talk) 17:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I’m sorry I didn’t know how to respond here, will she exists but the article should be deleted cause she’s promotiong herself and she’s not notable I’m arabic and she’s using some kind of fake news website saying she won Miss Egypt but she didn’t and she’s nothing but a blogger and she’s promoting herself thru wikipedia, fake fame to be precise, check out miss egypt wikipedia, she’s not included so delete it as soon as you notice this.

@Fitzcarmalan:, what do you have to say about this? And @EgyptianTyphoon:, you can sign your comments using 4 ~s. funplussmart (talk) 17:45, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What I have to say is: either 1) delete, ~~or 2) rename to Miss Eco Egypt 2018 and keep as a redirect.~~

It doesn't say that "she won Miss Egypt" in the article; it says that she won the "People's Choice" and "Miss Popularity" awards at the Miss Eco Egypt ceremony (not to be confused with Miss Egypt, a different pageant to which this one is erroneously piped). This Youm7 article confirms that first bit. But EgyptianTyphoon is absolutely right in saying that she is not notable enough for a standalone article. Not only is she not the winning contestant among 16 finalists, but the fact that Miss Eco Egypt itself is currently a red link is enough to sink this article. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 18:39, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as nominator. Making it clear that I am convinced that this should be deleted. funplussmart (talk) 22:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not enough in-depth material from reliable, independent sources to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:38, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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