Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Harnett

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The result was delete. Yunshui ^雲 _水 07:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

James Harnett[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL as his elected office is to a neighborhood advisory commission in Washington, DC and while he was elected at 19 I don't think that on itself could bring Harnett to notability. Almost all of the 28 sources are either primary, from his college or high school newspaper, passing mentions, or social media posts. GPL93 (talk) 01:25, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. GPL93 (talk) 01:25, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. GPL93 (talk) 01:25, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Lightburst (talk) 18:55, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As a neighborhood advisory commission does not pass WP:NPOL. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:47, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Neighbourhood advisory commission (a/k/a neighborhood council) is not a level of office that gets an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL #2, but this article is not referenced anywhere close to well enough to get him over the bar: of the 28 footnotes here, nine of them are primary sources that are not support for notability at all (i.e. Twitter tweets and/or the self-published websites of organizations he's directly affiliated with), another 11 are high school or college student newspapers which are not notability-assisting coverage, and the few that are real general-market media are still exclusively local coverage which doesn't demonstrate a credible reason why his notability could be deemed to have nationalized at all. As always, GNG is not just "anybody who's gotten their name into any media outlet twice or more" — GNG does not just test for the number of footnotes, but also applies tests for depth and range and context, and the sourcing here isn't passing those tests. Bearcat (talk) 23:08, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable level of office, and being elected at 19 does not change that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:49, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NPOL as his elected office is to a neighborhood advisory commission in Washington DC. --SalmanZ (talk) 22:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep fails WP:NPOL passes WP:GNG - only needs to pass one or the other. Subject is notable for being the youngest elected official in Washington, D.C. (19). Once a subject is notable always notable. per WP:NTEMP Washington Post, North Jersey/USA Today, college publication - GW Hatchet, CNN. Lightburst (talk) 18:55, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not pass WP:NPOL, and even if stories cover him as the youngest official when elected, it looks like all the significant coverage is about that, so the main notability claim fails under WP:BLP1E. The rest of the coverage appears to be passing mentions and routine coverage that any elected official gets. If an article on that election existed, one sentence about this person could go there, but a full biographical article in the encyclopedia is neither necessary nor justified. Bakazaka (talk) 19:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bakazaka. What about this one which is not about his election or politician status? North Jersey/USA Today Lightburst (talk) 20:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat already addressed that above, so I'm not sure why you're replying to me here. Bakazaka (talk) 20:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see it. Bearcat dismissed a number of sources as primary but did not address the in depth coverage in the sources I cited above (Bearcat only addresses the failing sources). Nor did he address the coverage in that in depth USA Today piece that had to do with the subject's Eagle Scout work. Lightburst (talk) 20:39, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Washington Post article is technically local coverage, even "national" newspapers still cover local interest stories. The "USA Today" piece is actually a NorthJersey.com article, USAToday.com hosts pretty much every local paper owned by its parent company Gannett, so its really an article published in The Record (Bergen County, New Jersey), the Herald News, or the Daily Record (Morristown) about his Eagle Scout project. Best, GPL93 (talk) 21:09, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the opinion. We also forgot the CNN Lisa Ling national television program about hackers. I encourage the editors to read the in-depth sources The coverage in each was for different achievements/participations. Subject has coverage on CNN TV for being the youngest participant in Hackerfest, In depth coverage for his Eagle Scout work in North Jersey/USA Today, and in Depth coverage in the Washington Post for being being elected to office at 19. We have a good article about a notable subject IMO. Lightburst (talk) 21:38, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Bearcat did a great job in examining the sources above, demonstrating that the subject fails both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. The sources are either primary, non-reliable, or local coverage only. And, as Bakazaka mentioned, as his only real claim to notability was his age when elected, that falls under WP:BLP1E. Rorshacma (talk) 23:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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