Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JDOG

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 14:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

JDOG[edit]

Delete - fails WP:BIO because of the lack of independent reliable sources that are substantively about this person. Otto4711 (talk) 02:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, is one of the hosts of VH1's The Pick Up Artist. Mathmo ^Talk 04:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever role he may play in a TV series, he must still pass WP:BIO with reliable sources that attest to his notability. Otto4711 (talk) 21:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All the sources either do not work or are primary sources except for the OCRegister and News Blaze. Unless other sources are found, an article on JDOG is not warranted. A breif description of JDOG may be written on The Pick-up Artist (TV series) about JDOG, but apart from that, I would !vote delete. Billscottbob (talk) 01:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The Pick-up Artist (TV series). The main assertion of notability in the article is for the appearance in the The Pick-up Artist (TV series). Although the article cites several sources, some are primary, others are only for factual information, and do not constitute significant coverage. The page on Newsblaze.com appears to be significant, but it is the same as http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,159571.shtml which is labelled as a press release, which I think would be a primary source. Unless more sources can be found, it does not meet the WP:BIO guidelines, and as a result deletion is an option, although it may be possible to merge some of the content, to provide a brief description as suggested by Billscottbob. —Snigbrook 00:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, several mainstream articles have been written about JDOG, including one in the New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/13/arts/television/13pick.html?_r=1&oref=slogin Sedcom (talk) 14:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please note that the article is about the show. JDOG (or J-Dog as he is referred to in the article) is mentioned in one sentence. -- Swerdnaneb 14:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Only trivial mentions in secondary sources. Another article in the pick-up artists' walled garden. A single article with most of these guys would be far more appropriate given the coverage that each gets. Very few pass WP:GNG, especially the significant coverage and reliable, third-party sources parts. Pcap ping 08:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.