Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J. C. Greenburg

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 01:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

J. C. Greenburg[edit]

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Fails WP:NAUTHOR. Cannot find any independent sources. The GreenwichTime article is a user-submitted listing of events and is not independent. Also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Lost. Johnj1995 (talk) 19:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women, Science, United States of America, and Connecticut. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect I don't see enough independant coverage to warrant an article, but as an WP:ATD could redirect to her more notable husband at Dan Greenburg. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to get more opinions. While it might come to this closure, I am adverse to the frequent "Redirect woman's article to that of her husband" resolutions that often appear at AFD. If that is the consensus, so be it but one opinion is not consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agreed with relister about redirecting to husband idea. At minimum, it should be a merge. Also, she did win an Eleanor Cameron Award. Robina Fox (talk) 11:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is the award sufficient?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 20:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Golden Duck Award#Eleanor Cameron Award. Not a "well-known and significant award" (WP:ANYBIO) or "major literary award" (WP:BKCRIT) to establish notability for a stand-alone article, but this target has a little info about the author. (And I don't know where this article would be merged to.) SilverLocust 💬 22:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can only find the Greenwich articles as mentioned, nothing else. The award might be notable, but with no sourcing, we can't have an article. Could perhaps redirect to the list of Golden Duck winners? Oaktree b (talk) 02:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per Robina Fox. I think that the award is notable. The article neede more sources but I don't think deletion is a good idea. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 03:24, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. I lean towards Redirect/Merge as an alternative to a No consensus closure but there isn't an agreed upon target article. But I don't think Redirecting a biography article to an award article is the best option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I agree it's not ideal, but absence of anything other than the award, I stand by my original suggestion of Dan Greenburg being the target for a redirect/merge. -Kj cheetham (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. When there's not a suitable redirect target, then we don't need to have one at all. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 04:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep based on reviews and a scholarly source added, and some further coverage on ProQuest, as well as the award (recognized by Booklist) helping generally support notability as an author for the Andrew Lost series of books. If the full version of ""Andrew Lost in the Garden" By J.C. Greenburg", Advocate; Baton Rouge, La. 24 May 2003: 8-D. (Abstract only available on ProQuest 415677651), can be found, this may help further bolster author notability. If there will be a redirect, I think the Golden Duck Award#Eleanor Cameron Award is preferable, because the subject and her work are mentioned, and it seems generally preferable to target the redirect to her career accomplishments than to her spouse. Beccaynr (talk) 18:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.