Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It's a Black President, Huey Freeman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of The Boondocks episodes. There was consensus that the episodes should not have separate articles. The two keep votes were variations of WP:OTHERSTUFF. I rather redirect the articles instead of deleting them so that material can still be merged by interested parties. Do not restore these article without presenting evidence of significant coverage (i.e. other than a two-line AV Club reception). – sgeureka ^t•c 10:01, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Black President, Huey Freeman[edit]

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I am nominating the following articles for deletion. I have researched a number of them and could not find any significant coverage of them. There seems to be one guy at the AV Club who likes The Boondocks, but other than that they seem insignificant. Thus, the articles fail to meet the WP:GNG. (Of interest to users viewing this AfD is another nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Medicinal)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment was there any attempt to merge or redirect these episodes per WP:ATD? All appear to have a specific and viable merge target. Jclemens (talk) 17:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I dont know about these particular episodes, but if you take a look at the edit history of another episode of this series [1] you will see that attempts to redirect are met with considerable reversions from a redirect to full unsourced articles. Active Banana (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there is never going to be consensus for a redirect between editors and fans. I haven't checked all of these articles but if all of them are sourced to nothing other than an AV Club article then Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Story of Lando Freeman shows that this is considered insufficient to sustain an article. No !vote at this time. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~delete all~~ WP:GNG " Multiple sources are generally expected." Until more than one brief review is provided, these should not be stand alone articles. Active Banana (talk) 19:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I did find coverage in LA times for the ep "It's a Black President, Huey Freeman " [2] which if combined with a review would satisfy me as meeting WP:N. However, there was no review for this episode. Active Banana (talk) 20:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional comment: Stinkmeaner 3: The Hateocracy has coverage/review in a mainstream source. I am not convinced that the coverage cannot be adequately covered in a parent article. Active Banana ( bananaphone 16:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- switch to Merge to List of Boondocks episodes (Season Three) or something similar. At this point there appears to be some basic coverage that can support a Season article, with the future potential of individual episodes spun off if adequate sourcing is found in the future. Active Banana ( bananaphone 18:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I assume there is coverage but the sources need to be added. Has the nominator attempted to Google News the episodes or pick up a TV Guide, EW, or other sources to see if there is coverage there?Cptnono (talk) 01:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I have checked some of the episodes on Google News and LexisNexis news sources. I believe there is one writer for the AV Club whom is a fan of the show, but no one else seems to talk about it but him. --Odie5533 (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or delete. If you've checked lexis nexis, then you (are 1 out of 100 and) have actually done what should be required to see if deletion is necessary. Keep it up. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 03:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:43, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Smack of listcruft, fancruft but no different from many many other tv series who have their episodes listed in detail on Wikipedia. Why not this one. The series itself clearly notable. scope_creep (talk) 19:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have any reasoning other than WP:OTHERCRAP? Active Banana ( bananaphone 18:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I know what your saying. Fundamentally I see the guides being used to kill the worst excesses of cruft. There could 2k+ animations, I don't know, series in Wikipedia, and people use the episode guides for references. Do we delete all of them. The episode guide articles are well written and the series is notable. The episode guides are good for reference, and being an inclusionist, believe that anything that brings editors and reader to Wikipedia is a good thing. scope_creep (talk) 20:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry, we are an encyclopedia, not a marketing page that is seeking to bring in viewers at any cost. If they want encyclopedic information, please come here. If you want fancruft, look elsewhere. Active Banana ( bananaphone 19:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Don't be sorry, we are just are having a discussion. Certainly not at any cost. Their is pages and pages of stuff that is clearly fancruft, but this isn't. It is well written and sourced, and series itself is notable. scope_creep (talk) 20:37, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all As individual episodes they fail notability criteria. If necessary, a couple of sentences of plot summary from each can be merged into List of The Boondocks episodes. Peacock (talk) 20:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. These episodes don't seem to have any stand-alone notability. No reviews or coverage example. Fancruft really. Support appropriate merge into another article if appropriate. Christopher Connor (talk) 06:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are separate articles for the 15 episodes of season 1 AND season 2. Starting deleting some episode 3 articles and it would be highly annoying to readers familiar with referencing the articles for other episodes.Bdell555 (talk) 04:01, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- I don't really understand what you're saying here. Regarding the previous seasons' episodes they should probably be deleted too and I may make another nomination for them in the future. --Odie5533 (talk) 04:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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