Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ilan Ziv

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Weak consensus that we lack the sourcing necessary to verify Ziv's work Star Mississippi 02:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ilan Ziv[edit]

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No way to verify that prizes claimed were actually received, even assuming they are sufficient to warrant this page

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Israel. Shellwood (talk) 13:33, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete passing mentions about his recent film on Jewish exiles, nothing substantive, but if he was the winner of these awards, could be notable. Oaktree b (talk) 18:42, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
the thing is that it is impossible to independently verify that these awards were indeed received, assuming they are even noteworthy, as the prizes are either very old and/or the organizations dont list past winners and/or the film festivals themselves are minor Newtonewyork (talk) 21:11, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. He meets WP:FILMMAKER #3 and #4. I'm less sure about the WP:GNG. gidonb (talk) 04:07, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am not to sure I agree with you re. WP:FILMMAKER #3 and #4, there are no 'multiple articles' confirming the prizes claimed, and the single articles out there do not discuss the work at length. Newtonewyork (talk) 21:43, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome to disagree with me. We are often making things too complex and hold way too many discussions. We can use our time MUCH better in the article space. As I see it, without passing the WP:GNG, Ziv does not pass the bar. So this nomination happens to be justified. Don't take away from your ACHIEVEMENT by starting pointless discussions with both opinionators, who basically agree with you! I see the awards as an indication of notability. Coverage would be proof. Just had a similar case with a Dutch producer with a huge number of movies. One of these won a prestigious prize. He stayed away from publicity. That can't start at WP. gidonb (talk) 00:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:20, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 20:00, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.