Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Icarus Interstellar

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Icarus Interstellar[edit]

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Does not pass WP:ORG

A number of blog entries hit on some of the people involved on a slow news day when these guys said they started working on Warp drive but no real coverage.

See also related AFD at Project Icarus (Interstellar Probe Design Study). Gaijin42 (talk) 19:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not True: These guys have published in established scientific journals and thus pass the criteria. Links to some publications have been added to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanbruystelghem (talkcontribs) 14:18, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Blakeredfield (talk) 12:44, 17 May 2014 (UTC)Icarus Interstellar now operates the Anchorage Makerspace, a bi-annual conference Starship Congress and has a student chapter at Drexel University, aside from the 8 research projects they coordinate and a team of 166 volunteer researchers by the last count. The arguments for deletion being based on coverage of their warp drive research (which are simply most popular to journalists for the wow factor they carry), are more a boon for the organization than arguments against the value of having a wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blakeredfield (talkcontribs) 12:42, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Importance is not synonymous with Notable. Are there WP:RELIABLESOURCES discussing the elements you have mentioned? If so, bring them up. If not, we are back to a simple question. Does the article passWP:GNG. I submit the answer is no. Gaijin42 (talk) 14:40, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mgilster (talk) 19:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC) Here are some references to Starship Congress in the media:[reply]

Here is a reference to the Drexel University student chapter:

Here is a reference to a NY Times article discussing Icarus Interstellar participation at the DARPA 100-Year Starship Study Symposium:

Here are more articles in the media about Icarus Interstellar, Project Icarus, work by Icarus Interstellar members, or citing Icarus Interstellar members' expertise:

Here are sources specific to Project Persephone, an Icarus Interstellar project:

Here are some abstracts for articles in the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, published 2011-2013:

Here is a page from the British Interplanetary Society (BIS) about a workshop hosted by BIS and Icarus Interstellar:

The Icarus Interstellar article definitely needs improvement. I have provided a number of sources which could be used to improve the article. These sources show that Icarus Interstellar is a notable organization for the following reasons:

  • Icarus Interstellar has been the subject of significant international coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.
  • The depth of coverage is substantial - several articles are solely about the work of the organization.
  • The intended audience of the coverage ranges from space enthusiasts to experts.
  • The sources cited are independent, reliable, and demonstrate both interest in Icarus Interstellar and notability of Icarus Interstellar as a reliable organization with expertise in its subject area.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I am a volunteer with Icarus Interstellar working primarily on the official website. If no one else updates the article with the sources I have provided, I will do so. Mgilster (talk) 22:05, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Thanks Mgilster, you've done a good job. --doncram 02:15, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 17:10, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the article with some of the references I have gathered and will continue to do so. However, I am leaving on vacation for most of June. I hope there is enough consensus now to keep the article, and if not, I ask that we keep discussion open until I can work on it further. I have also gathered some more sources:

The Hyperion and Bifrost articles are published on Discovery.com. These were authored by Icarus Interstellar members. I think it is notable that Discovery.com has Icarus Interstellar members contribute articles, but if they are not an appropriate source, let me know. Mgilster (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.