Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I'm Luffy! The Man Who Will Become Pirate King
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was keep, no consensus. SushiGeek 07:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm Luffy! The Man Who Will Become Pirate King[edit]
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Appears to be fanfiction. There is no reason to even make a redirect out of this, because it has no significance. Trafton 12:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Undecided. Apparently this is part of an excessively detailed episode guide to something called One Piece. It was previously speedied twice under the name 1. I'm Luffy! The Man Who Will Become Pirate King as patent nonsense. Later User:OnePieceMaster5000 who contributes the articles started creating articles without episode numbers in the title, and moved existing articles to these names. Other articles in the series have been speedied too because they provide so little context that the appear to be nonsense. All (or most) are linked from One Piece Episode Guide. Since we have other TV episode guides on Wikipedia, I don't think these are candidates for outright deletion (except if copyvio) but they do need a strict loving hand for pruning and wikifying. Henning Makholm 12:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteMerge I only managed to click that it was an episode synopsis when I deleted the first one. There must be a List of One Piece Episodes somewhere. This probably got lifted of another website to boot. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 12:55, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It's probably already covered in One Piece Episode Guide Highway Rainbow Sneakers 12:56, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- One Piece Episode Guide is just a list of links, made by the same contributor as the individual article. If they were shorter I would advocate merging, and I may still tend that way. Strangely enough Google cannot locate a source, so I think User:OnePieceMaster5000 does write them him/herself. Henning Makholm 12:59, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It could be like serebii.net, which is a Pokémon site with tons of synopsis but you can't copy any of it straight from the page. You can however open it up with the Microsoft Word 03 and edit it there. So it could be done that way. Can we stop this guy by the way? Highway Rainbow Sneakers 13:07, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That's them all (for now), we probably could merge them into the One Piece Episode Guide (which needs renamed) if we prosed them.. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 13:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete. I am not of the opinion that this series is notable enough that individual articles are needed synopsizing every episode; however as I'm aware and as Henning Malkolm's comment suggests the consensus on this is not yet clear. I would suggest no prejudice against recreation if the creator, or any recreator, does it right and in a manner clearly indicating they're episodes of a TV show. Daniel Case 13:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It isn't notable enough to have an episode per article. It's below the notability of the Pokémon anime which doesn't. The English articles (which are listed near the bottom of article) are more noted. But I'm still voting on merge. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 13:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep but probably needs a bit of cleanup (at least something at the top explaining what these are episodes of). We have episode guides for Star Trek, Buffy, Firefly, etc etc etc. and I don't see why we can't have them for One Piece too. Marging isn't the best solution as these are pretty long and the resulting article would be unwieldly. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Starblind, but the articles will need major cleanup and (probably) more uniform titling. Monicasdude 14:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as these crufty articles, or, barring that, redirect to one main one. Totally absurd that these all would exist, as they do not come close to meeting notability requirements. DreamGuy 22:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge I am of the opinion that view if any TV shows should have long individual episode summaries. This show is not notable enough to deserve this kind of in depth summary. I would create a main article for each season or volume or however anime is divided, and have a season's worth of shorter summaries on a page. I know this is a minority view, but there it is FWIW.Thatcher131 01:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for one simple reason - these summaries are based on the subtitled versions of the original Japanese, and so do not belong here. Danny Lilithborne 02:56, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I can see other reasons to delete these pages, but why on earth should "based on subtitled Japanese" in and of itself warrant deletion? Confused Henning Makholm 11:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The pages would be based on illegal fansubs, first off. Secondly, there is a policy to only discuss English versions on the English Wikipedia, anyway. Danny Lilithborne 13:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How exactly can you show that these are based off of fansubs rather than someone that watched it originally in Japanese on TV? Also, please link this policy. Kotepho 14:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- They all read differently, some start with Eric Stewart voice over and others don't. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 15:16, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The "Naruto" pages are full of debates about this topic. Also check WP:MOS-JA. It is not directly on point, but it states that "en:Wikipedia is an English encyclopedia". Danny Lilithborne 01:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The MoS mainly talks about names and not content differences. I can find nothing that says "don't discuss foreign things". Why couldn't we have an article on a book/whatever that hasn't been translated into English yet? I'm going to stay far away from any Naruto debates though. Kotepho 03:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep all It is totally absurd that we have these articles, but we have plenty more of them. Advise the author of Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Television_episodes though. Kotepho 14:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Make that keep all or redirect all to the ones in Category:One Piece episodes. We don't need two copies of each, but I don't know which titles are better. Kotepho 14:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge all to one article about the episodes. The series is just about notable, the episodes certainly aren't on their own. Stifle (talk) 14:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.