Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HunCraft

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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 01:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HunCraft[edit]

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Nominating this unofficial StarCraft expansion pack after over a week of no references provided (including on StarCraft page) as failing to pass WP:GNG -- multiple, reliable, independent sources with broad coverage; preferably reviews and critical reception, as this is a video game. Neither regular, news, book, or specialized VG search turned up any usable sources for establishing notability. I cannot really search for Hungarian sources, but searching .hu only sites, I only found this (translated). However, this is just 1 source. I'm hoping more can be found. Article itself is one long WP:GAMEGUIDE. I guess the source above can be used for a short paragraph in StarCraft or somewhere, but is not backing any current content. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not clearly notable, and could be covered briefly in StarCraft. Current article is too close to a HOWTO/GAMEGUIDE, as already mentioned. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some atricles about it:

overview
how it is developed
bugfix patch overview

This is the most detailed expansion pack for Starcraft 1. Even more deteiled than Retribution or Insurrection. I suggest shortening instead of deletion. Christo161 (talk) 14:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)Christo161[reply]

These are primary sources, and cannot be used for establishing notability (WP:GNG). Article length also does not reflect on notablity, only sources do. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 16:00, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 00:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There were some Hungarian reviews in PC Guru and Gamestar magazines. Are those count? Christo161 (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Christo161[reply]

Probably, can you access and cite them? — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Did some searching, couldn't find any reliable, third party sources. Doesn't meet the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 16:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the Hungarian reviews (scanned from magazines):

gamestar 2001 june page1
gamestar 2001 june page2
pc games 2002 march page1
pc games 2002 march page2
pc games 2002 march page3

Christo161 (talk) 17:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Christo161[reply]

(edit conflict) Two of those look like interviews, if I'm not mistaken. I'm afraid interviews are somewhat borderline when WP:GNG is concerned, because they are basically developer talking (not independent source). They can be used as good sources for development though. The old2/old3 pages look like a proper review though. I don't really know what WP:VG/RS would say on this source and what their editorial review is, but it would seem a printed magazine should be a reliable source. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I found this small review also:

huncraft upnews

Christo161 (talk) 18:24, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Christo161[reply]

I'm afraid this one won't do for WP:GNG, because it is not significant coverage, and it is basically a directory listing with a short, generic description. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 06:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no significant independent coverage. Might be appropriate on a gaming/mod wiki, but not here. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:40, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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