Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hudur Durga
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The result was delete. I don't see a consensus to merge. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:06, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Hudur Durga[edit]
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One of the infinite local dieties. For inclusion on Wikipedia, one needs to pass WP:GNG and this subject finds no results in Google books.Ratnahastin(t.c) 06:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hinduism-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:N. Sources available online are websites that marginally discuss it, but no significant coverage can be observed. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 10:24, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:54, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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- @Ratnahastin, Georgethedragonslayer, and LaundryPizza03: I will be able to add information and references from reliable Bangla language newspapers including BBC Bangla, Anandabazar Patrika. Will this prevent the article from being deleted? ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 05:56, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment MS Sakib, yes may be. I'm waiting your source. IMO, as this deity is real and have source in Bangla language, he is notable enough to have his own article, and there are reason to believe it is possible to expand the article. VocalIndia (talk) 16:56, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- @VocalIndia: I have provided appropriate references. See below. ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 19:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose: It is not true that, there is "no results in Google books." [see here]. Moreover, there are a lot of reliable Bengali, English and Hindi sources on this topic. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21] — Preceding unsigned comment added by MS Sakib (talk • contribs) 12:38, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "দুর্গাপূজার সময়ে যেভাবে শোক পালন করেন 'মহিষাসুরের বংশধরেরা'". BBC News বাংলা (in Bengali). 2020-10-26. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "दुर्गा नहीं महिषासुर की जय". BBC News हिंदी (in Hindi). 2009-09-27. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ পরামানিক, অমিত. "মহিষাসুর ও হুদুড় দুর্গা". www.anandabazar.com. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "দুর্গাপুজা উৎসব নয়, শোকের সময় যে হিন্দু জনগোষ্ঠীর কাছে! | কালের কণ্ঠ". Kalerkantho (in Bengali). Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "দুর্গা নন, এই উৎসবে আদিবাসী সাঁওতালদের উপাস্য হুদুড় দুর্গা। শ্যামসুন্দর বেরা". EI Samay (in Bengali). Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "क्या सच में महिषासुर दलित या आदिवासी था?". News18 Hindi (in Hindi). 2019-10-05. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ Chattopadhyay, Arunava (2018). DURGA: Ekti Obolokon (in Bengali). Atmajaa Publishers. pp. 48, 49. Retrieved 17 March 2021.
- ^ "Mahishasur Day observed at JNU | Delhi News - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "'दैत्य' को भी पूजेगा बंगाल". Dainik Jagran (in Hindi). Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "Navratri Special : इनके लिए दशानन रावण कुलगुरु और महिषासुर हैं पूर्वज, ये लंका दहन को मानते हैं पाप". Navbharat Times (in Hindi). Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "जिस महिषासुर का दुर्गा ने वध किया उन्हें आदिवासी अपना पूर्वज और भगवान क्यों मानते हैं". thewirehindi.com. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ Deogharia, Jaideep (October 11, 2013). "Asur tribals mourn 'martyr' Mahishasur | Ranchi News - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "Meeting the Asurs". The Indian Express. 2016-03-06. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
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- ^ Hansda, Parimal. "Eight melancholic, introspective poems by Parimal Hansda on being a Santhal today". Scroll.in. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "BJP MP Cancels Celebration of Mahisha Dasara in Mysuru". NewsClick. 2019-09-30. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ "দুর্গা নয়, এই উৎসবে তাঁরা উপাসনা করেন হুদুড় দুর্গর". EI Samay (in Bengali). Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ NewsDesk, G. C. "When Bengalis celebrate Durga Puja, Santhals mourn killing of demon king Mahishasura - Goa Chronicle". Retrieved 2021-07-16.
- ^ Service, Indo-Asian News (2016-03-01). "Not just Durga, Mahishasur also worshipped in India". India News, Breaking News | India.com. Retrieved 2021-07-16.
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- Most of these sources are discussing about Durga which is a different subject. Passing mentions from random sources is not going to help you in establishing notability. Shivkarandholiya12 (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Shivkarandholiya12: No, you misunderstood. You have actually confused Durga and Hudur Durga. One is the opposite character of the other. ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 17:19, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Most of these sources are discussing about Durga which is a different subject. Passing mentions from random sources is not going to help you in establishing notability. Shivkarandholiya12 (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and lacks significant coverage. The citation shotgunning done by the article creator fails to establish notability. Shivkarandholiya12 (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Shivkarandholiya12: My question is, why the reports published in BBC Bangla and Hindi, Anandabazar Patrika, Kaler Kantho and Ei Somoy are not significant coverage? ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 17:26, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect and merge into Mahishasura the Veneration of Mahishasura as Hudur Durga should be covered into the article; the links of JNU or Karnataka are not related to the Hudur Durga of the Santal tribals. --Redtigerxyz Talk 11:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz: Although Mahishasur and Hudur Durga are the same but not completely same, the descriptions of the Santals are different and as Hudur Durga has been widely discussed in the mainstream media for the last decade. In fact, Mahisasura and Hudur Durga are two different explaination of same divine power. The same example can be seen in the articles Kali and Mahakali. ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 19:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Nothing to do with the AfD. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 09:28, 20 July 2021 (UTC) |
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- Delete per nominator. Agletarang (talk) 19:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete None of the above source significantly discuss the subject but mainly make passing mention of Durga which is not same as this subject. Mukt (talk) 13:16, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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