Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howard Middle School (Orlando, Florida)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Orange County Public Schools. Per Dennis. The article history is still available to help in creating an article about the Orlando High School. Randykitty (talk) 14:49, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Middle School (Orlando, Florida)[edit]

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This non-notable middle school really should be redirected to Orange County Public Schools per longstanding tradition for middle schools, but this has been opposed, based on the history of another, now defunct school, Orlando High School. Brought this to AfD for concensus. Jacona (talk) 19:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I would go along with a merge. The article asserts this used to be a high school. Bearian (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: is appropriate. Not even high schools get automatic passes absent sources, any more. Nha Trang 20:43, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:11, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This is a tricky one. Should be titled Orlando High School and rewritten to match, with the new name and function of the building a section near the end. Carrite (talk) 05:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Orlando High School was apparently one of only two high schools in the city of Orlando during the 1930s and 1940s, the other being a segregated black-only school. This is an important article to retain, in my estimation. Carrite (talk) 05:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"ORLANDO+HIGH+SCHOOL" is a difficult Google search, but in a quick glance I did find THIS (click image 9) circa 1900 photo which notes the first graduating class came in 1892. This article should be retitled and rewritten. Carrite (talk) 05:21, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

THIS indicates that there was a second "Orlando High School" which dated from 1927 to 1952. Carrite (talk) 05:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

MORE DETAIL on Orlando High School for the years 1922 to 1925. Carrite (talk) 05:34, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PHOTO of the Florida state champion Orlando High School Tigers girls' basketball team. Pretty clearly the same school entity housed in multiple locations. Carrite (talk) 05:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

THIS dates the organization of Orlando High School to 1890. Carrite (talk) 05:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If Orlando High School is an important article to retain, wouldn't it be more appropriate to write this article as Orlando High School and redirect Howard Middle School (Orlando, Florida) to Orlando High School? I think that's what you're recommending? If so, it makes sense to me. Jacona (talk) 09:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to close but chose to comment instead. Carrite, if you are saying this used to be old high school, then this should be merged to the district and a *new* article created about the old high school. The issue is one of "building vs community". Is the high school the bricks, or the people? Like a Church, we can mean both with the term. Today, this community is a jr. high and needs redirecting. The building used to house a High School, which is worthy of a sourced article even though it doesn't exist anymore (as notability isn't temporary). As it is now (both in fact and here in print), it is a middle school, thus I say to REDIRECT. Dennis - 2¢ 22:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:30, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.