Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horton, California

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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Horton, California[edit]

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This one is so obscure it doesn't appear on USGS topographic maps and doesn't even have a GNIS entry. I found it difficult to search for this one, as it's not entirely clear what this site is, and Horton is a common name. Found last names, a Bureau of Land Management campground named Horton Creek, a creek, a lake, and a court case involving a dispute over an Inyo County ranch named Horton. Maybe others can find better sourcing that I could, but this isn't looking like a notable location. Hog Farm _Talk 15:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm _Talk 15:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm _Talk 15:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

delete It's actually extremely easy to pick out the junction itself and the old roadbed— even the telegraph poles are still there! But what's not there is anything in the vicinity of a point 3.2 miles or so down the line from the junction, other than typical salt flat-ish features and the trace of the old right-of-way. I have to think this is an extremely minor RR point (it doesn't show up on the map of the Topanah and Tidewater) but at any rate there doesn't seem to be anything to say about it, and all evidence is against it being a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 15:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It is actually on that map, you can see it written just under DEATH VALLEY (see another map). It was inhabited (see [1]) but I'm not sure this was a permanent settlement, there was certainly a labor camp there at one point. It's mentioned several times in [2] and [3].----Pontificalibus 16:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Of those sources, I can only get the Gbooks preview for the link for the "it was inhabited" one. Did you have any better luck with the preview stuff, Pontificalibus? I'm willing to withdraw if significant coverage can be found. Hog Farm _Talk 16:30, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'm generally lucky with GBooks preview. I can see all five mentions in one, and all four in the other. All passing mentions such as "in the sweltering mess tent in the construction camp at Horton".----Pontificalibus 17:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the directions in the article are incorrect (it's actually WSW of DVJ), but the result is basically the same: the grades are still plain, ninety years after abandonment, and again there is just nothing there besides, which I must admit don't go back all that far, but still.... Evidence is still that it was a rail point which hosted a construction camp, presumably to build the junction itself. Mangoe (talk) 21:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Given that the T&T Railroad branch serving the borate mine at Lila C, California was constructed in 1907 and this was named after a railroad worker, its unlikely to pre-date the railroad. All indications are that it was a construction camp for the railroad branch built 1914 serving the second borate mine at Ryan, California. No indication it continued as a settlement after what had then become the Death Valley Railroad closed in 1934.----Pontificalibus 17:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All of the books that indeed confirm this to be a junction named after one Ben Horton (construction gang foreman and roadmaster) can be, it turned out after I had found them the hard way, easily found in Death Valley Railroad#References. Uncle G (talk) 17:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The second you google 'Horton, California', the second thing that pops up is the Horton v. California article. Plus not verifiable. Regards. JayzBox (talk) 07:44, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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