Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homophobia in the Black community

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The result was keep both. Michig (talk) 08:03, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Homophobia in the Black community[edit]

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I'm a little on the fence about these two articles. Basically, they seem like coatrack articles with biased viewpoints about homophobia as a whole among certain races (and this nomination is coming from a pansexual black man). Erpert ^{Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it?} 07:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep both as notable topics discussed in reliable sources, although my preferred solution is the one I suggested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racism in the LGBT community (3rd nomination); userspace it and work on an article focusing generally on queer people of color (such that we could acknowledge bias within particular communities but also the dual minority issue from without, information on qpoc cultures, observations from reliable sources if they're there that "homophobia in the white community" and "racism in the straight community" don't get singled out...) –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm a little confused by what you said. Erpert ^{Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it?} 16:49, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Can you elaborate? My opinion is that since reliable sources discuss homophobia in X community as a notable topic, the article should remain, but that I would prefer to merge, after a sort, both these and the LGBT racism article together into an article on queer people of color that would use the lens of the experience of a member of both communities, rather than "queers/blacks have bias, aren't they awful." –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Now, that would make sense, but right now the articles still seem like coatracks to me. Erpert ^{Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it?} 03:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If this article is supposed to have world-wide scope, as suggested by the lack of restriction in the title and by the response to my comment below, then this is in general not a dual minority issue. Most black people live in countries where they are in a majority. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I agree that a refinement of the scope would be helpful. It would be a great error to try to tie in, say, Uganda. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:04, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep both these articles are in their infancy. They already have a ton of sources. And the topic of homophobia in communities of color are notable. Signed a Hispanic Arab Jewish Queer-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 21:53, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep both. These articles are stubby but the subjects are certainly notable and sources abound. Insomesia (talk) 21:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep both, educational, encyclopedic, good deal of secondary source coverage, high value for this project. — Cirt (talk) 00:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- What project? Erpert ^{Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it?} 03:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies. Insomesia (talk) 10:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Actually, I meant Wikipedia. But that's also true. :) — Cirt (talk) 16:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If this article is kept then it certainly needs to be renamed. Most black people do not live in the US or the article's afterthought of the UK, so if there is such a thing as a worldwide black community, as implied by the article title, this article does not address that community. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This article is new and I'm positive will be expanded. We are not talking only about Blacks in the United States or the United Kingdom for that matter. I've found several sources. I'm just trying to figure out how to summarize them in the article.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 20:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - How about renaming it Homophobia in the black community in the western world?Dwanyewest (talk) 19:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- In reference to latinos how about Homphobia in the latino community in the United states if we to be specific? Dwanyewest (talk) 19:07, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with User:Roscelese - the article should be kept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by White Gay Man (talk • contribs) 05:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Keep both for the reasons given above. - Ret.Prof (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep The articles appear to be poorly written coat-racks at the moment (no offense meant to anyone editing there). Still, the notable topic has been discussed by a wide variety of sources. They should be kept (both of them). 129.120.177.8 (talk) 19:51, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.