Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holly Hoffman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Nobody opposes deletion. Sandstein 15:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holly Hoffman[edit]

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Regardless of whether she complies with WP:GNG, unconvinced that her association with her then-husband Charlie Hoffman and daughter Alex Hoffman suffices to save this article from being either redirected (preferably) to Survivor: Nicaragua per WP:BLP1E or deleted. Neither does her book based on her Survivor experiences nor being a motivational speaker. George Ho (talk) 08:09, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, and Television. George Ho (talk) 08:09, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and South Dakota. Shellwood (talk) 15:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, you know that meeting WP:GNG is enough to keep an article, right? DonaldD23 talk to me 17:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Generally, yes. However, I assumed that the BLP1E policy would weigh more than the GNG guideline, especially in this case. Regarding GNG, even if there are a bunch of sources about her, I'm wary about using them to verify her compliance with GNG, and I doubt that she meets it. –George Ho (talk) 17:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little concerned about the available sourcing in general. See the talk page issue about who owns the ranch, how she came by it. None of the sources actually said she inherited the ranch, but many of the sources left open who exactly did inherit the property. Just about every source I found for her seemed to have a hint of celebrity hype in them. Maybe it's just me. — Maile (talk) 14:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 16:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Maile66 and Donaldd23: What are your stances on this article? George Ho (talk) 05:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per WP:BIO. This reads like she wrote it herself. I see nothing here but an elongated saga of this individual's personal life. Early life, Career and Family are all personal info, and could be merged into a lot less of a narrative. Survivor was a WP:SINGLEEVENT. Motivational speaking is sparse, Removed her personal page link, which triggered "403 Forbidden error". — Maile (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I think it's a good idea if someone could please remove the fluff and the items that are poorly sourced and then we make a decision based on whats left. MaskedSinger (talk) 08:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but what's the value of possible remaining content after removing poorly sourced content? If anything, "what's left" would contain content that may not adequately save the article from being redirected to another page. Honestly, I fail to see the need or value of "what's left" in the article other than overemphasizing her supposed "notability" that's based on primarily one event. George Ho (talk) 08:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok. MaskedSinger (talk) 08:26, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.