Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of Romania since 2007

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was snowball delete pointless copy-paste fork of existing article `'Míkka >t 22:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History of Romania since 2007[edit]

Arbitrary sectioning of Romanian history, with focus on very recent developments; the text is of low quality and simply redundant to existing articles, and there is obviously no scholarly precedent for this. The entire article could fit nicely into the preexisting History of Romania since 1989 (you'll also note that the creation of this article has left the other under an absurd title - "since 1989", but then "since 2007", and until?). Dahn (talk) 15:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - nominator's vote. Dahn (talk) 15:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - pointless. bogdan (talk) 15:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Neutral for now~~ Delete see reasoning below While the nominator is correct that currently the article is simply a copy of the 2004-2007 section of the Romania since 1989 article, this article was just created 25 minutes ago (I believe it was nominated five minutes after its creation). It has the potential to develop into a fairly good article and I believe it would have been best to have waited a few days to see if the creator intended to expand the article before nominating it for afd. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about my other points? Dahn (talk) 15:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that the naming is not the best but that can be fixed without a deletion. As for your point about scholarly precedent, the 1989 article was created because in 1989 because communism fell in '89. And while the joining of NATO and the EU are clearly not as momentous as the fall of communism, they are still important events that may merit a different article about the politics after the joining. I believe this to be a good faith nomination and I will most likely !vote delete if nothing is improved, however I believe it probably would have been better to wait a few days and see how the article developed. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RECENT. Colonel Warden (talk) 15:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if no improvement. I agree with Tony on it just being created, I HATE such fast vfd's. I don't really see such a article ever being worthwhile TBH though we should give it a litlte bit of a chance. If it hasn't proved itself to be worthwhile within a week or so then delete it.--Him and a dog 16:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per all above. Malinaccier (talk) 16:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since this can be easily incorporated into History of Romania since 1989. actually all the info on this page is copyed from that page. Nergaal (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I can't say that I believe the last three weeks of history in Romania warrant an article. matt91486 (talk) 19:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge back into the 1989 article. It's obvious how 1989 is significant enough a year in Romanian history to qualify as an article separation point, but 2007? Bearcat (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence that 2007 was a particularly WP:N year for Romania. JJL (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge back - that is if there is anythign worth merging. Peterkingiron (talk) 01:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reasoning I have already noted above may dismay that this article was nominated for deletion within five minutes of its creation, but after a day and after notifying the creator of its nomination the article still is just a copy of the 2004-2007 section of Romania since 1989. As such there is no reason that this topic merits its own article at this present time. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even that aside, though, history since 2007 of any country will not be substantial enough to warrant an article. Perhaps in the future, Romanian history can be broke into 1989-2007 and Since 2007 as EU membership shapes the next 10 years of history, but at the moment, there's hardly enough content to warrant an independent article for Romania after EU membership. matt91486 (talk) 01:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree completely; sorry if I didn't make that clear in my reasoning . TonyBallioni (talk) 20:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 2007 was one of the most important years for Romania. Since 2007, Romania is a full EU member. Since then the history is changed in better. EU means that Romania will loose an important part of its sovereignity: currency (EURO), borders (Schengen) and so on.Anton Tudor (talk) 06:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment WP:CRYSTAL. Dahn (talk) 06:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.