Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hise Model A

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The result was Withdrawn. Fram (talk) 06:49, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hise Model A[edit]

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A company which only developed one aircraft, of which they only built a prototype. The only book that has given it any attention is this, a highly specialized 127 page book that spends 4 lines on this plane. If even the source where you could expect to find most information on this, only has so little to say about it (and no other sources could be found[1]), then it seems to lack the required notability. Fram (talk) 12:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 12:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 12:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can find virtually nothing (beyond the brief mention in that single source) about Fred Hise, his company (was it actually even a company?), or this plane. Effectively, all that we can say is "A guy built a slightly distinctive plane in Michigan in the 1920s" and ... that's not enough to clear the notability bar absent additional sources. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2019 (UTC) Yeah, okay, so my source searching on this was clearly wasn't up to my usual standards. That said, I think we're best off with a Move here, to Hise Aircraft Corporation as nearly all the sources are more directly about the company than their prototype plane. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 23:36, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A brief mention here on p507 of a report in the US journal Aviation on the 1929 Cleveland airshow, where it was exhibited, together with specifications here (p508) and a mention of a revised version [2] (registration required I'm afraid) - not a huge amount, but can fill out the article a little.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the sources and detail that User:RecycledPixels added demonstrate that SGNG is met, so Keep.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:10, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Found some additional sources, and even a photograph from the Smithsonian (maybe). The company received an order for 5 aircraft valued at $100,000 ($1,500,000 today) but the airline purchasing the planes had its authorization to sell stock yanked because it spent all of its money on the planes, leaving nothing for operations. I only have Google snippet view of the "Orders and Opinions of the Michigan Public Service Commission" source, but that may provide additional information if someone has better access to it. I haven't spent a ton of time digging around this, but I suspect the cancelled order plus the onset of the Great Depression led to the demise of the company. So it's not really about a guy who built one airplane and flew it once. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:57, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The image that I found and uploaded was apparently put on Flickr by a user on the Commons blacklist who is known for misrepresenting the copyright status of their images. So it might not be usable. RecycledPixels (talk) 00:14, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn, thanks for all the improvements and finding sources which were not easily accessible. Fram (talk) 06:49, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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