Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herbert Polzhuber

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The result was keep‎ . Star Mississippi 13:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Herbert Polzhuber[edit]

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He competed at several Olympic Games but didn't win a medal and a WP:BEFORE search didn't otherwise show notability. Not an obvious redirect as he competed at more than one Olympics and in more than one sport but Austria at the 1968 Summer Olympics might be best as it was his highest finish. Suonii180 (talk) 08:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, and Austria. Suonii180 (talk) 08:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There has to be offline coverage for a guy who was a multi-sport Olympian at four Olympics. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This piece from SB Nation has a wild story about his participation at the World Pentathalon Championships. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This book that I can't access discusses him on nine pages, it seems. He also seems to be discussed in this magazine that only gives me snippet view. Olympedia also has a decent paragraph on him, which is rare for historical foreign athletes - so that should go for something. This mentions him as "one of Austria's best epee fencers". BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:23, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This piece seems to discuss how the PED laws were affected due to his play at the 1965 Championships, giving a paragraph on him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Teol seems to have another piece on him at the world championships. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
BeanieFan11 - There is also some things about him at https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/spiegel/pdf/45950013, https://web.archive.org/web/20090519062613/http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1968/MOP/, http://archiv.oefv.com/new/indexc903.html?page=298&printview=1, https://www.spiegel.de/sport/auf-fremdem-ross-a-1df134e9-0002-0001-0000-000045950013 and https://digi.landesbibliothek.at/viewer/fulltext/AC13228472_1964/33/. KatoKungLee (talk) 01:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Added up, I think we should be able to weak keep this one. Competing at four different Olympics for a foreign country in the pre-internet era is almost a 100% guarantee that offline coverage is going to exist. And then we've even got a piece discussing him from an American publication, plus a story on him from Teol (Hungary); one of the sources mentions that he was one of his country's best all-time fencers, and we have at least two sources that we know mention him, but can't access. Additionally, Olympedia devotes a decent-sized paragraph to him, which is rare for foreign historical athletes - which has to show something. So in all, I do believe we have enough to write a decent biography and to keep this per NBASIC (mixed with a bit of WP:COMMONSENSE), which states "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak KeepI agree with this assessment. The American point of view is interesting, and the Hungarian one is another interesting case. Notice of a western athlete from behind the Iron Curtain at that time is odd. Oaktree b (talk) 19:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I also agree with BeanieFan11's assessment. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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