Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Blomberg

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The result was delete. Tone 15:18, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Blomberg[edit]

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Received a reward for heroism and gallantry, however it's only the Distinguished Service Cross (United States) (I'm not belittling the award, just saying it's not the top award), and has been awarded to over 13,000 other individuals. I'm nominating it because I don't believe someone is inherently notable just because they're received this award. I'd also like to use this as a test case as the article creator (Packerfansam (talk · contribs)), who is doing sterling work, is creating hundreds of these articles and I don't want them to continue doing hard work if they'll end up being deleted due to the time they're putting into it. So tell me, is one of 13,000+ people earning a second tier military award notable? Medal of Honor or Victoria Cross yes, DSC, I don't believe so. Canterbury Tail talk 23:07, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MILPEOPLE notes that only those awarded a nations highest award are notable, or those who win a second highest award on multiple occasions.Canterbury Tail talk 23:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - There are also upwards of 100+ similar articles with the same claims to notability. Canterbury Tail talk 03:01, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find any significant coverage of him. I do not think receiving the second highest award is in itself notable, as it looks right now that is his only claim to notability. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 02:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The DSC was awarded in fewer numbers than the German Knight's Cross, but I don't think that there have been too many AfDs for winners of that award. Let's establish some parity here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sturmvogel 66 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 20 December 2009
- There is a difference here; the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross was the highest decoration, while the Distinguished Service Cross is among the second. Also, there is the basis of reliable sources. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 10:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - In any case, I don't think there's a great case for saying a Knight's Cross holder is inherently notable. A holder of the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves or above probably is, but not the unadorned Knight's Cross. It was too common (over 7,000 awarded in a single war is just too ubiquitous, compared to 181 Victoria Crosses and 464 Medals of Honor for the same war - I don't really think it can be considered a first tier award in that sense). I would certainly support deletion of an article on a Knight's Cross holder who was solely notable for being a recipient. -- Necrothesp (talk) 21:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:V and WP:BIO. Although the award of the Distinguished Service Cross is highly admirable, it does not make one notable enough for inclusion per Wikipedia's guidelines, particularly with the extreme lack of sources on the subject aside from the decoration's citation. If there were further sources on the subject's life than perhaps the guidelines would be satisfied, but I do not believe this is so. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 10:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Lack of reliable sources with more than a passing mention in it, thus failing WP:GNG. At the heart of it, that's why it fails and should be deleted, although the fact that the recipient only got the DSC (not maligning, a very good achievement) and not something like the Medal of Honor or Victoria Cross doesn't help either. Skinny87 (talk) 15:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He would have to have had at least one other award at this level to be considered for an article unless he did something else notable. A holder of a first tier decoration is inherently notable; a holder of a second tier decoration is not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 21:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't meet the notability standards for individuals Nick-D (talk) 10:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as doesn't meet notability standard. Buckshot06 (talk) 12:18, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per nomination reasoning. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 13:36, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I wondered about this when I saw the author creating a slew of these articles, but didn't want to be the one to step up and say that they were all non-notable. It's true that WP:ANYBIO says a person who does not meet GNG may still be notable if he "has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for one." In one sense, the Distinguished Service Cross is notable—we have an article on it—but then we have an article on the Purple Heart too, and we've given out 1.3 million of those. So I thoroughly agree that the Distinguished Service Cross doesn't count (without more, obviously; see here). I think the idea of the ANYBIO guideline is to streamline the notability consideration of people who receive or are nominated for awards whose recipients and nominees are generally notable under GNG. But DSC recipients and nominees are generally non-notable under GNG (Henry Blomberg too), so I don't think a case for notability can rest on this award alone. Glenfarclas (talk) 06:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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