Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haruki Umemura

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 22:22, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Haruki Umemura[edit]

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested without addressing the delete rationale. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 10:16, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy. This is a young player just signed to a team in a fully pro league listed in WP:FPL. He did not play in the first match of the season [1], but given he's only 18, that's not surprising. There's a good chance he will play in the season, but no certainty. WP:NFOOTBALL does not allow for considering the "possibility" of appearing, so I cannot vote "keep," but it does not make sense to delete an article that might be revived satisfying WP:NFOOTBALL very soon. Michitaro (talk) 14:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFOOTBALL doesn't allow for the "possibility" but WP:CRYSTAL does (requiring almost certainty rather than certainty). Throw in a bit of WP:COMMONSENSE and there's little point deleting the article now, and then haveing to recreate it ... particularly as I've noticed that when articles are recreated, the edit history is seldom restored. The deletion and later recreation and then even later correction of the edit history is a complete waste of everyone's time. BTW, do you have any thoughts on how this fits into the Japanese notability rules? There's an article in the Japanese version. Nfitz (talk) 14:59, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Given that there are many reasons a player signed to a team will never appear in a match for that team, including injury, I don't think WP:CRYSTAL is enough to override WP:NFOOTBALL. WP:GNG can be used when WP:NFOOTBALL fails, but with Umemura, all I've been able to find in terms of RS on him in Japanese are these two brief reports about his signing: [2] and [3]. One would be pressed to argue these satisfy WP:GNG. Michitaro (talk) 15:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not notable. Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.