Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harney, Nevada

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:11, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harney, Nevada[edit]

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Stub on a Nevada unincorporated community based on GNIS data, which isn't very reliable. Almost all sources mention it in the context of the 1939 City of San Francisco derailment, which took place nearby. I'm not seeing much evidence that there ever was a populated settlement here. Our article on the derailment describes it as a "rail siding", and this 1941 court judgement describes it as a "railroad section crew headquarters". I suspect the railway had something here but that doesn't translate to a community. There's clearly no community there now, satellite imagery just shows a patch of desert next to the railway and a river, with no structures visible. If it's not a populated place then per WP:GEOLAND it needs to pass the WP:GNG and it clearly doesn't. Hut 8.5 19:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nevada-related deletion discussions. Hut 8.5 19:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:44, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a good place to put this? It's not notable enough for a standalone, but I think we should preserve the place and coordinates somewhere, given there was a railroad section foreman stationed there. SportingFlyer T·C 20:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose we could redirect to the article on the derailment, which does mention it. Hut 8.5 20:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Places should have at least one government citation, and I found a few Nevada and USA documents at Google Books. Koridas 📣 20:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have you looked at those hits? The vast majority have nothing to do with Harney, Nevada. The first two relate to Harney County, Oregon. The third one is a statement by a Mr Corbin Harney who lived in Nevada. The fourth one is about Harney Peak Granite. The fifth one is actually about Harney, Nevada, but it's a record of a labour dispute and doesn't show anything other than that in 1957 it had a section foreman and a telephone line. The next one is about Harney Lake (Oregon), the next one is about Corbin Harney again, etc. Hut 8.5 20:28, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

delete I found a 1950s aerial which shows the station (long gone, of course) but there isn't anything there otherwise, and now there is nothing at all except the railroad and surrounding desert. Its only notability is in relation to the wreck; possibly it could be redirected there with some cleanup of the latter. Mangoe (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the derailment article, pretty clear this is a rail siding not a community. Hog Farm (talk) 22:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect. As per my comments on the talk page:

"Carlson writes that Harney was/is a non-agency Southern Pacific station, so WP:STATION appears to apply. The only reason Harney is of note is because of the 1939 City of San Francisco derailment, possibly an act of sabotage that killed 24 people. Perhaps the Harney page should be removed? Cxbrx (talk) 17:00, 7 March 2020 (UTC)"[reply]

"I believe that Harney, Nevada is not notable because WP:GEOLAND says that geographic locations do not inherit notability from events. Cxbrx (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cxbrx (talk) 03:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 11:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Another case of identification by GNIS. All evidence says Harney is a rail station and not a community. Not notable. Glendoremus (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.