Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hall of Shanmen

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The result was merge to Shanmen. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:05, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hall of Shanmen[edit]

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The same with Shanmen, maybe merge 淺藍雪^❉ 04:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Buddhism-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Huangdan2060 (talk · contribs) created both articles (Hall of Shanmen and Shanmen). The two concepts seem to be different:
1. "The Shanmen (simplified Chinese: 山门; traditional Chinese: 山門; pinyin: Shānmén}, also known as Sangedatsumon or Gate of Three Liberations, is the most important gate of a Chinese Chan Buddhist temple."
2. "The Hall of Shanmen or Shanmen Hall (simplified Chinese: 山门殿; traditional Chinese: 山門殿; pinyin: Shānméndiàn), also known as Hall of Three Liberation or Hall of Mount Gate, is the gate of a Chinese Chan Buddhist temple. In ancient times, nearly all Chinese Buddhist temples had a Shanmen, as an important gate of the temple. After successive wars and cultural discontinuity, with only one gate, most of the existing ancient Buddhist temples usually follow the hall style or change the middle gate of the three main gates into a hall called "Hall of Shanmen"."
Hall of Shanmen seems to refer to a gate of a Chan Buddhist temple, while Hall of Shanmen refers to the most important gate of a Chan Buddhist temple. I do not know enough about the subject to know whether they are the same topic and whether they should be covered in separate articles or merged together. I've asked Huangdan2060 to provide their opinion here as the creator of both articles.
Cunard (talk) 09:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

pretty much interchangable words, 殿 means hall, and Shanmen is in fact usually a hall, so 山門殿 is tautological, even if different, the difference (Shanmen could also exist as a pure gate) is only minimal that doesn't qualify a separarte article, a section at most.--淺藍雪^❉ 13:38, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation.

Merge/redirect to Shanmen per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. Cunard (talk) 05:58, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect Looks like the same thing. 山门殿 in Chinese Wikipedia is a redirect to 山门. Mucube (talk • contribs) 22:08, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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