Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hadith of The Cloak

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The result was merge to Ahl al-Kisa. --PeaceNT (talk) 04:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hadith of The Cloak[edit]

Because The Article contains incorrect information, and articles regarding it alredy exist the page should be deleted DaDexter (talk) 15:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This Article is a stub.The person who wrote the article does not have sufficient knowledge.No offense!

Firstly an article related to the Hadith of Cloak and the event already exists on wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_Event_of_the_Cloak

Secondly,The person confused two distinct events into a single event! The Hadis of Cloak and The Event of Mubahila.

The Hadis of clock occured on 3rd Hijra acording to some records, while some people say its 5 Hijra...However, I believe the correct is about 7 or 8 Hijra, as both Imam Hussan (AS) and Imam Hussain (AS) came walking to Their mother Fatima (AS) and Imam Hassan (AS) was born on 2nd Hijra, while Imam Hussain (AS) was born on 3rd Hijra, Thus they time can not 3rd or 5th Hijra.

Irrespective of the date when it occured,the two events are separate and different.

The second event of Mubahila occured on 2nd Zil Hajja, 10 Hijra. An article for this event also already exists. See the page on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mubahila

DaDexter (talk) 15:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Wikipedia should have one article on this subject; currently, we have Hadith of The Cloak and Hadith of the Event of the Cloak, both of which have existed on Wikipedia for years. I am insufficiently versed in the nuances of Muslim theology to form an opinion about which of these articles has the more appropriate title, or about which contains the best neutral, verifiable content. I have left a note at WP:WikiProject Islam's talk page requesting input from users familiar with this subject. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge this and Hadith of the Event of the Cloak into Ahl al-Kisa. In the past a consensus was developed that most of the "Hadith of..." articles on Wikipedia were unencyclopedic and unnecessary forks of other articles (after which many more have been prodded and deleted). The article is about a report (hadith) - it has little significance outside the context of the topic of Ahl al-Kisa (and as such is not inherently notable in and of itself). The latter is currently a stub and could do with more discussion of the underlying reports in the article itself. Similarly, other such "Hadith of..." articles should be implemented into the general topics they are considered significant to. ITAQALLAH 22:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Although I disagree with Itaqallah about Hadith article and I think we can have encyclopedic Hadith articles, but in this case Hadith of the Event of the Cloak and Ahl al-Kisa refer to the same thing.--Seyyed(t-c) 14:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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