Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guy Oliver (designer)

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The result was redirect to Oliver Laws. Will leave the history in place for anyone who wants to take on the task of merging. J04n(talk page) 14:13, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Oliver (designer)[edit]

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This bio reads like one giant advert for a non-notable individual. Lugnuts (talk) 19:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:13, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I spotted this a few days ago and was planning to work on it to at least make it look presentable, but don't think I'll bother now it's up for deletion. On the other hand, if it's kept I'll certainly put it on my to do list as the whole thing reads like a promotional piece just now. This guy seems to have worked on some notable projects and there's quite a lot of information if you Google him. Probably not as well known as his sibling, however (and nobody had heard of him until he was appointed David Cameronh's spin doctor). Perhaps what is needed is a redirect to Oliver Laws (his company) where we can merge some of the relevant information. TheRetroGuy (talk) 18:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to discourage people from editing the article because I've taken it to AfD. At the point I tagged it, it just read like a CV for someone who really isn't that important. Lugnuts (talk) 19:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I might take a look at it, but don't really want to do masses of work on it if it's only going to be deleted at the end of the day. I'm not sure the case for keeping it is particularly strong, but suppose it could do with a copyedit at least. Perhaps if I find some refs and things it might strengthen the case. I've got a few days to do something anyway, so might tackle it towards the weekend. TheRetroGuy (talk) 20:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If someone can edit it to make it acceptable that will be fine. However, my impression is that once all the promotional material is removed there will be very little left, and I am doubtful if there is enough notability to keep it no matter how much it is rewritten. Even so, I am not yet giving a bold "delete", as I am willing to wait and see if someone can salvage it in the next few days. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete After six days there is still no real evidence of notability, and it is still substantially promotion. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Had planned to review this over the weekend, but events overtook me. Will take a look later this evening to see what (if anything) can be salvaged. If, for some reason, I don't manage to do it and the article is deleted I'll ask for it to be restored to my userspace, giving me a bit longer. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Actually I could take a copy of it I suppose. Am I allowed to copy the text and paste it to my userspace? There doesn't seem to be any copyright issues with the article. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - ok, I've removed the promotional stuff and rewritten it to sound more encyclopedic. I'll do some more work on it if we decide to save it from the chop. As regards his importance, I would say this is probably a borderline case. If others don't think it strong enough to keep then Merge/Redirect may still be the best solution. TheRetroGuy (talk) 22:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work TRG. Are you able to find a ref to back-up the Downing Street claim in the opening paragraph? If so, I'd be happy to withdraw the nom. Lugnuts (talk) 07:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've just been Googling this, but sadly I can find nothing to support the claim. It may be true, but there's no online reference for it. TheRetroGuy (talk) 11:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the benefit of clarity Mr Oliver's TV appearance as a leading UK designer can be seen in the Genuine Article Episode 502 'Hiring an Interior Designer" and in episode 305 "Howard Chairs" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.185.46.2 (talk) 05:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I want to post some details re Guy Oliver and his work not only on television but also behind the scenes production advice and guidance.

My Company Follow Productions based in New York featured Mr Oliver as one of the best known designers in England during the production of the Fine Living Network's "Genuine Article" series.

The series enjoyed five seasons on The Fine Living Network and is still seen throughout the world.

The series was focused on the finest artisans, products and services in the world such as Bentley, Riva, Aston Martin, The George V Hotel, Tanner Kroll, Lobb, ec.

Mr Oliver certainly met our requirements as a discreet but extremely important figure in the world of interior design

Mr Oliver discussed his re-design work for Claridge's Hotel new suites and The Connaught Hotel's public areas. We focused on his work in the specialist field of classic English and European decor. During our program he explained the careful selection of materials and craftsmen while re decorating some of the great private homes of England as well as his role in refurbishing rooms in both 10 Downing Street and the Kremlin. He introduced us to specialist artisans that re created regency fabrics and wallpapers using the same manufacturing techniques of the late 18th century.

He later introduced American audiences to US based artisans during his appearance on another Fine Living Network Series called The Best For Less. This show was also produced by Follow Productions

I hope this adds some detail to Mr Oliver's importance and notoriety within his industry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.185.46.2 (talk) 05:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We can probably add this as a reference. Just a couple of small questions though;

You mention two editions of the series. In which one does he discuss his work on the State Rooms at Downing Street?
When was this edition first aired?

Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 10:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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