Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guy Donato

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I have a lot of sympathy for the view that paper documents from this era are not reliably digitised; this is the case even for Western countries, and it's something I have had personal troubles with. With that said, we cannot have an article for a living person where there are no reliable sources other than a list of films to back up their notability. My suggestion for people who want to retain this article is to go and find those paper sources that they assert should exist, go and have them digitised, and put them up somewhere so that Donato's career can be properly established per WP:V. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 03:41, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Donato[edit]

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Delete: non-notable actor. Quis separabit? 23:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable. Heyyouoverthere (talk) 10:49, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 04:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 04:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Robert Campos although delete is followed at second as my searches only found passing mentions at Books, News and browser thus noting to suggest he was a better known actor. SwisterTwister talk 04:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The sparsity of modern coverage is not an indication of non-notability for an actor in the 1950s/1960s. The difficulty in finding contemporary sources for his active years is for the same reason as his brother's - Philippine print media have not been digitized by Google (or other online libraries) from that era. WP:NACTOR only requires that he have had significant roles in multiple notable films. And he passes that easily. His roles are independent of his brother's. Despite being (subjectively) the "less famous" of the two, he was in the industry longer than Campos.

Doesn't mean there aren't any evidence of his offline notability on the web. If you can get past the fact that these are posted in a blog and just look at the images, you can get an idea of his notability by the scans of old newspaper/magazine articles and movie posters of films he was involved in. These can not be used as sources, but they prove his involvement in multiple notable films: Tayo'y Magsaya (1959), Doon Po Sa Amin (1960), Naku... Yabang (1963), Emily (1960), Banal (1961), Navy Blues (1960), Mr. Announcer (1959), etc. His brother's movies are there as well (and yes, they were usually cast in different movies, not together, thus a redirect would not make sense).-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 07:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. sources are sparse because his heyday was in the '50s. He is still notable. My apologies in advance to RMS125 who might be offended by my voting.--Jondel (talk) 13:09, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very funny, @Jondel. Yours, Quis separabit? 05:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did'nt mean to be funny Rms125. I have respect for you and your ideals. You seem to be offended for the wrong reasons.--Jondel (talk) 10:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Recently added:*Pelikula: A Journal of Philippine Cinema--Jondel (talk) 13:14, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I try to vote keep on as many of articles on older actors as I can justify. But there is simply not enough out there to show this person meets either WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:28, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus yet. sst ✈ 01:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, sst ✈ 01:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non-notable, does not pass WP:NACTOR. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 13:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.