Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregory Scott Cummins (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 12:29, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gregory Scott Cummins[edit]

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No coverage in reliable sources, does not meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, WP:NACTOR. Previously deleted by AfD with the closer requesting that CSD not be used against recreated articles, which also disqualifies it for PROD. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 21:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and comment: He did appeared in some notable films and he has a recurring role in Bosch. While the majority of his roles in notable films were smaller, his role in Bosch is a major recurring one. While this article needs major expanding and reliable sources for sure, I don't think this article needs to be deleted. BattleshipMan (talk) 21:52, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets criteria #1 of WP:NACTOR with significant roles in both It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (see Deadline and this cast interview in The Hollywood Reporter for example) and Bosch. The previous AfD was in 2012, well before his recurring role in Bosch.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 07:53, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to the keep votes but in a different way, keep the article but as a draft. If not kept in that way, delete. I agree with keep votes that he is not entirely non notable, but There are still two facts: 1) he "barely" passes or even depending on what your thoughts are on Sunny role he had, fails WP:NACTOR because he needs multiple significant roles in notable shows or movies(film roles are all minor, Sunny role where he appeared in a guest 7 episodes role only (which I do not consider that notable) apart from the bigger Bosch recurring role there is not much yet) and 2) references wise, I am unable to find a significant coverage from reliable sources that are not just passing mentions. I feel like he could still be in the WP:TOOSOON domain. He may be notable in the future but not now. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:40, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The subject's own website and IMDb do not add up to reliable sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:26, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment John Pack Lambert, I added a couple of references that I had noted above into the article, that way if it's draftified there will be reliable sources to work with.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:38, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 22:02, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per John Pack Lambert. The role in Bosch is not a "significant" one. Fails GNG too, and there's very little out there that we could realistically use to build an article. — Amakuru (talk) 22:29, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Ponyo; clearly passes NACTOR (there seems to be a misunderstanding that "significant roles"=leading roles only); furthermore—reference the previous AfD, I note that the closer was also was almost swayed by some of the "keep" arguments. The subject's notability has increased, rather than decreased, since then. ——SerialNumber54129 12:15, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's no misunderstanding. The roles he has held, leading or otherwise, are not significant. If they were, there would be some independent 3rd party coverage of the guy, which there clearly isn't. — Amakuru (talk) 13:02, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am withdrawing my vote. I don't really agree that guest roles are significant nor that he clearly passes WP:NACTOR (a short guest role on Sunny is just not significant even if you do count Bosch one as such), but since its such a borderline case, I am stepping back. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.