Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grady Auvil

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The result was delete. Consensus is he isn't notable. Should an article on his company be created, happy to provide the text to merge for attribution. Cannot keep this on the grounds that an article might eventuate. Star Mississippi 01:33, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grady Auvil[edit]

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The sources here are either organizations saying they gave Mr. Auvil an award, or non-reliable or primary. What we would need is indepdent sources covering Mr. Auvil either in the context of the award or elsewhere. Just because an organization gives a press release on an award does not make that award notable or getting it a sign of notability. John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Washington. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per norm. --Vaco98 (talk) 14:35, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Inadequate sourcing to meet notability, per WP: GNG. Unreliable coverage and not independent. Reads like WP:ADMASQ. NiklausGerard (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The intro refers to the references in the article ("the sources here"), however, per WP:NEXIST: Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. The bold is in the source, so we will not disregard it! At the very least, the book Apples (1998) by Frank Browning (author) is an RS that contains WP:SIGCOV. Not making up my mind until a comprehensive WP:BEFORE is done. gidonb (talk) 22:51, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are numerous articles about the fruit company he founded that mention him, and these articles that are significantly about him:

Still Grady. By: Volyn, Kari, Wenatchee Business Journal, 00433365, Jul96, Vol. 10, Issue 7
Auvil Fruit Co. President Grady Auvil, 87, sees nothing but prosperity for the next 30 to 40 years, according to an article in the February 1993 issue of the Wenatchee Business Journal Source: Wenatchee Business Journal. Feb, 2013, Vol. 26 Issue 11, p23, 1 p.
Legendary Growers Get Star Treatment. Source: American Fruit Grower. Feb2014, Vol. 134 Issue 2, Special section p11-11. 1p.
Part Artist, Part Scientist. Source: American Fruit Grower. Nov/Dec2004, Vol. 124 Issue 10, Special section p12-12. 1p.

I don't have access to the full text of all of these and there is the complication that Grady Auvil's son was named John Grady Auvil and may have gone under the name of Grady. I actually think that it would be very easy to support an article for the company which has gotten a lot of press and seems to have been involved in innovations in its field. My main concern with THIS article is the amount of un-referenced biographical information. I'm not sure it can all be sourced. Lamona (talk) 19:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In that case then maybe we should change this article into a redirect to the article on the company in question.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Except that there isn't one yet, and it would take some effort to create it. Any volunteers? Lamona (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.