Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glyndŵr Award

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The result was keep. Yunshui ^雲 _水 10:16, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glyndŵr Award[edit]

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Though this award gives out some very nice medals made by a local goldsmith, I can't find any coverage at all (other than occasional mentions in listings) of this award. I'd go as far to say the award gains more credence and notability from the people who win it, than the other way around. The article was originally written by the founder of the Machynlleth Tabernacle, who hand out the award. Time for it to go or, at best, redirect it to Machynlleth Festival (where it seems the award is presented). Sionk (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:22, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:22, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:23, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:23, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think this does satisfy LISTN. It is frequently included in the biographies of those who win it, in biographical dictionaries etc. I have to infer that it is included in those sources because it is considered important. Also included in yearbooks: [1]. This must be based on its own importance. GNews does contain at least one article specifically about the award, and quite a few others primarily about the festival or winners that discuss it (there are also similar sources on main google search, such as what appears to be an article on Kyffin Williams from the Western Mail newspaper). Since many of the winners are notable or noteworthy on other other grounds, I don't see a problem with having a list of blue links. Add to that the fact that the Machynlleth Festival has had a lot of notable performers performing in person (meaning it is an important event). Add to that the level of importance of the Machynlleth Tabernacle that can be gathered from sources. I would not support merger to the festival unless there is room in that article for an embedded list of winners. Deletion would violate ATD, PRESERVE and R due to the existence of the festival article as a merger/redirection target. James500 (talk) 00:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That is my argument entirely, the Machynlleth Festival and the medal's recipients are undoubtedly important, but the medal simply isn't. I'd like to know where the one article specifically about the award is (I couldn't find one). Things shouldn't inherit notability on Wikipedia. A list article would also be unsourceable - there isn't even a list of winners on the festival's website so it appears to be using Wikipedia to host its info. Sionk (talk) 04:17, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: appears to be a significant award. It's often included in obits. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:49, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Historian and BBC commentator John Davies dies aged 76 | BBC News-Feb 17, 2015 | In 2005, he received the Glyndwr Award for Outstanding Contribution to the Arts in Wales at the Machynlleth Festival. Five years later he won...
- Ian Parrott: Tributes to Aberystwyth University professor | BBC News-Sep 12, 2012 |... the John Edwards Memorial Award for devotion to Welsh Music and the Glyndwr Award for his outstanding contribution to the arts in Wales.
- These are the legendary trailblazers who are Wales' LGBT role models | WalesOnline-Feb 11, 2017 |... programmes on television and radio. In 2005, Davies received the Glyndwr Award for his Outstanding Contribution to the Arts in Wales.

Etc. On this basis, I would say it's a keep. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep appears to be complying with WP:LISTN. Kraose (talk) 08:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.