Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glen J. Smith

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that the sources are not enough for notability. A lot of the keep argument seemed to assert notability rather than explaining how the article meets the notability guidelines. Galobtter (pingó mió) 01:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Glen J. Smith[edit]

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Does not pass WP:NPOL as he hasn't held state-wide public office, at the very least. Bedivere (talk) 21:57, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, meets WP:GNG. Chairs of state parties often are notable. Andre🚐 22:21, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This person, notable primarily as the chair of a state-level political party is not an automatic WP:NPOL pass, and the article isn't referenced well enough to get them over WP:GNG. This is not what it takes to make a political operative notable enough for an encyclopedia article. --Bedivere (talk) 22:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is saying it's an "automatic" pass. This barely passes WP:GNG as this person is a state party chair as well as a gubernatorial candidate, and it has 3 sources that are reliable for Virgin Islands purposes. Andre🚐 22:29, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The three sources in the article are entirely superficial: two aren't even about him and just drop his name, while the other only drops his name in the context of being a candidate for lieutenant governor. Curbon7 (talk) 13:15, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Caribbean, and United States of America. Shellwood (talk) 22:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep. I would say that there is just enough coverage in sources for the holder of a statewide office leading a globally prominent political party. BD2412 T 22:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As usual, state party chairs are not inherently notable ex officio but may be if they receive significant coverage. However, a search appears to show that the only coverage that appears to exist on this subject are entirely passing mentions; thus with no indication of WP:SIGCOV, he does not appear to pass WP:GNG. Curbon7 (talk) 13:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Territory-wide news sources and chair of the Virgin Islands Democratic Party. Especially in a smaller U.S. state or territory, a political figure like Smith is notable. Scanlan (talk) 13:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Being the chair of a local party does not make the person notable. See WP:POLOUTCOMES "Leaders of major sub-national (state, province, prefecture, etc.) parties are usually deleted unless notability can be demonstrated for other reasons." Bedivere (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mind providing some of these "territory-wide news sources", as I've been unable to locate any besides very passing mentions. Curbon7 (talk) 19:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Only passing mentions of the subject seem to exist. Doesn't come even close to meeting WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BruceThomson (talk • contribs) 08:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Passing mentions are not enough to establish notability. Fails GNG. Springnuts (talk) 10:51, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is the sourcing sufficient or is it not?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 18:29, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - sourcing is not sufficient, as my !vote above. Springnuts (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:12, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacks indepth coverage only passing mentions fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:59, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.