Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghost (Dungeons & Dragons)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Index of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 1st edition monsters. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 00:10, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost (Dungeons & Dragons)[edit]

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All the references are to first-party sources, i.e., to game guides and other material published by the game's various copyright holders. Third-party sourcing is lacking both in the article as it stands and in my attempts to find better ones. WP:GNG asks for significant coverage independent of the subject. Despite the longevity and number of submissions, does not appear to be notable under the general or specific guidelines. Not significantly better-sourced since the wp:Articles for deletion/Dungeons & Dragons creatures discussion. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:48, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: also created Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dungeons_&_Dragons#RfC_on_Notability_of_D.26D_Standard_Creatures Thank you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Index of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 1st edition monsters, and merge any content that might be needed there. Ghosts are one of the most common of all fictional/mythological creatures, and there is nothing to indicate that the versions listed in the various D&D sourcebooks are at all independently notable at all. No sources aside from first party D&D books. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 18:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the For Dummies source is an indicator of notability, or merge to List of Dungeons & Dragons monsters (1974–76). BOZ (talk) 23:50, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to a monster list unless more third party sources can be identified. A merge to an article on ghosts in popular culture would be an option if one could be identified, but Wikipedia's articles about ghosts in culture don't really support something like that. The For Dummies book counts for something, but as it's a licensed game guide, probably not a lot. Josh Milburn (talk) 00:01, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To determine merge target. Sandstein 12:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Index of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 1st edition monsters. This seems to be the first official appearance. I agree that ghosts are an incredibly common and generic mythological creature. Without more analysis, this is probably better served in a list of monsters, though it could be added to the appropriate "in popular culture" article, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.