Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gemmenne de la Peña
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. LFaraone 15:13, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Gemmenne de la Peña[edit]
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not notable enough for own article page Lady Lotus (talk) 20:02, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. czar · · 21:28, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Gemmenne de la Peña had only a minor role in her first movie, Erin Brockovich but later had major roles in The Weather Man and Towelhead. In 2013 another movie with her was released. Of course she is is relevant as an actor. --NiTen (talk) 12:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No coverage in reliable sources other than a very few passing mentions related to her roles in Erin Brockovich and to a lesser extent The Weather Man. I added the best two I could find to the article and they're not much at all. — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:39, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- So you find coverage about an actress with major roles in well-known movies and your conclusion is that she is not notable? As far as I understand it, an actress is notable through her work, not coverage in media. De la Peña was seen in at least three relevant movies, which let alone should make her notable enough. --NiTen (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not coverage, it's the inclusion of her name in cast lists. She clearly fails WP:NACTOR. There is no discussion of her anywhere.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 16:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- She clearly fails WP:NACTOR? She had significant roles in multiple notable films, namely The Weather Man and Towelhead. --NiTen (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't seem as if she had significant roles in either. What makes a role significant? That someone writes something about it in a reliable source, I would say. That hasn't happened here. She's not even listed in the cast list on the WP page for Towelhead. She's not above the jump on the IMDB page for either. No one has written anything about her roles in either movie that I can find. What makes those roles significant?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A role is significant, I would say, if the actor has enough screentime with a role that has major influence on the story. This is the case at least with The Weather Man. --NiTen (talk) 22:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's interesting, then, how neither the article on The Weather Man nor the article on Towelhead mention her characters in the plot summary at all. How significant can the roles be if both plots can be summarized without mentioning the character?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, both must be the first articles without any issues. I've seen The Weather Man and I can assure you, that at least her role in this movie is definitely considerable. By the way, she is the main characters daughter in this movie and plot summary mentions her at least twice. --NiTen (talk) 05:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's interesting, then, how neither the article on The Weather Man nor the article on Towelhead mention her characters in the plot summary at all. How significant can the roles be if both plots can be summarized without mentioning the character?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A role is significant, I would say, if the actor has enough screentime with a role that has major influence on the story. This is the case at least with The Weather Man. --NiTen (talk) 22:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't seem as if she had significant roles in either. What makes a role significant? That someone writes something about it in a reliable source, I would say. That hasn't happened here. She's not even listed in the cast list on the WP page for Towelhead. She's not above the jump on the IMDB page for either. No one has written anything about her roles in either movie that I can find. What makes those roles significant?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- She clearly fails WP:NACTOR? She had significant roles in multiple notable films, namely The Weather Man and Towelhead. --NiTen (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not coverage, it's the inclusion of her name in cast lists. She clearly fails WP:NACTOR. There is no discussion of her anywhere.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 16:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No significant coverage outside of simple mentions in cast lists or movie reviews to generate notability. Does not meet WP:BASIC for multiple secondary sources other than directories. --Pusillanimous (talk•contribs) 14:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.