Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gavin Hopley

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Srikeit 09:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gavin Hopley[edit]

Wikinews is that way. Tis is a news story masquerading as a biography, with the clear intent of promoting a racist political party's agenda. Guy (Help!) 20:00, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete - the article needs to establish notability; being victim of an unsolved murder is not enough. But if it could be expanded to demonstrate the notability of the murder (which presumably is the only notable thing about the individual), it should certainly be kept. Barnabypage 20:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Victim of a notable murder [1].Romper 22:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - racist attack and murder, similar to S.Lawrence and A.Walker killing, ignored by the national media:

'Racist attack' victim critical

The hidden white victims of racism (The Times)

An extensive search of national and regional newspaper reports, however, shows that cases involving black and minority ethnic victims are widely reported, while there is an almost total boycott of stories involving the white victims of similar attacks.

Tottenhamlad 22:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. No reason not to have this article; it meets the requirements at WP:N, although it should probably be renamed Murder of Gavin Hopley. BNP reaction stuff should be removed unless it can be sourced to secondary sources, but the sources above are ample for the murder itself. JulesH 12:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Definitely not a biography, and I don't see why we need an article on every murder that makes the news. The POV-pushing in the article doesn't help. --Akhilleus (talk) 18:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Very Strong Keep this is a murder article in the same league as Stepher Laurence. It is just the other way round so the aricle is as important as the Stephen Laurence article which nobody whould ever delete, also I think trhat the current binge of lets delete murder articles when it is cliamed they are news stories or biographies is counter-producteve as wiki is not paper and there is no limit to the number of articles and all fullfil the notability criteria as they have multiple secondary sources.--Lucy-marie 18:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The very fact that it has been ignored by the national media shows it isn't suitable for inclusion. Wikipedia is not for righting perceived wrongs, or a soapbox for the BNP. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'comment the main reason it should be in on here is becausxe it was ignored.--Lucy-marie 10:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

delete please not sure why this was on wikipedia instead of wikinews yuckfoo 02:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
delete this is a wikinews item. --Fredrick day 10:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the individual concerned is not notable, however tragic and regrettable the circumstances of his death may have been. The event appears to lay claim to notability though the cross-reference with the BNP, which I believe puts in firmly in Wikinews territory, with no predjudice to an appropriately brief mention in a relevant section of the BNP article. If this were kept it would be far more appropriately titled Murder of Gavin Hopley a la Murder of John Monckton and others reflecting that the event, not the deceased, is notable. Deiz talk 10:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Deiz. ElinorD (talk) 16:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - looks like a WP:coatrack--Doc^g 09:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

please expand You say this is the "coatrack" could you please elaborate on your reasoning.--Lucy-marie 09:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.