Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Streiner

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:30, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Streiner[edit]

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Non-notable individual lacking Ghits and GNEWS of substance. Fails WP:BIO and other notability subcats. reddogsix (talk) 15:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The individual in question was directly involved with the creation of the notable film 'Night of The Living Dead' in both a technical capacity and as an actor. Additionally the individual has also served as producer on one of George Romero's early films "Season of The Witch' and produced the Mirimax theatrical release 'Comedian' which starred Jerry Seinfeld. Streiner also produced the promotional screener for the Dreamworks feature film 'Bee Movie' which feature Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock and Steven Spielberg. Streiner is also featured prominently in number of 'Night of The Living Dead' related documentaries including 'One for The Fire' which was featured on the Dimension Extreme/Mirimax authorized release of 'Night of The Living Dead' and in 'Documentary of The Dead' a film examining the making of the original 'Night of The Living Dead.' Streiner is also the founder of the Living Dead Fest, a well known fan event held annually and was recently named to the board of directors of Pitsburgh's historic Hollywood Theater. To contend that Streiner somehow fails to meet the Wikipedia's notability requirement is frankly absurd. I would also note that the party who is behind the effort to have this entry deleted, user reddogsix has a history of filing chronic, hypervigilant and apparently frivolous requests of this sort as evidenced by the unusually excessive number of declined requests of this sort evidenced on his user page, so in this case, I would actually request that you consider the source and his apparent over-zealousness in lodging an excessive amount of baseless challenges of this sort. I would also point out that this page is a starter page and more cited information is being added regularly. (Sellpink (talk) 19:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Comment - I suggest you focus on the task at hand - specifically showing how the article meets Wikipedia criteria for inclusion. Trying to focus on my actions will have no bearing on the AfD and whether the article survives. I also suggest you read WP:AFG and WP:UNCIVIL for guidance on how to interact with other Wikipedia editors.

The article fails to meet WP:BIO or any other notability guidelines. In order to meet notability guidelines, the article must be supported by verifiable, independent, secondary resources - something this article fails to do. Additionally, notability is not inherited from one notable subject to another non-notable subject. Working as a sound engineer does not automatically make him a major contributor to the movie - I don't recall the movie being remembered or notable for its sound. After you read the material I suggested concerning the quality of resources you have any specific questions, please feel free to let me know and I will try to help you make sense of the guidelines. reddogsix (talk) 00:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Your reference to the article outlining civility is not needed. I never at any point was uncivil, insulting or discourteous towards you. Moving past that, I never contended, as you seem to infer, that simply being the sound engineer on the film conferred any particular notability on the subject entry, but that the totality of his achievements including that would seem to meet standard for inclusion, including his role of producer of major motion pictures, his direct involvement in the promotion of Dreamworks film Bee Movie, his being featured as an interview subject in relevant 'Night of The Living Dead' related documentaries, his founding of the well known Living Dead Fest and his appointment to the board of directors of the Hollywood Theater. I will attempt to add more relevant and sourced information to further establish his notability. Thank you! (Sellpink (talk) 01:42, 14 July 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Comment - If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. reddogsix (talk) 02:04, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:04, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - as currently written, the article is in poor shape, and poorly sourced, but in theory could be improved. I looked at IMdB, and Steiner is listed as one of two sound engineers. His own IMdB page lists only a handful of credits. Normally that would not be enough to pass WP:CREATIVE. However, if more sources of reliable types could be found and added to the article, showing significant references to him, then he may pass general notability. For example, there are many books and magazines in which he is mentioned. As it stands now, it would likely be deleted. Bearian (talk) 16:26, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Right now, all I see is that he was the sound engineer on a cult film. This has led to him being mentioned very briefly in a reliable source or two - not enough to establish notability. Unless someone comes up with more than this, I don't see why a unique article is deserved. Nwlaw63 (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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