Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gagan Sharma

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gagan Sharma[edit]

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Highly advertorialized article about a musician, whose claims of notability per WP:NMUSIC are not properly referenced. The vast majority of the sources here are WordPress blogs, not reliable sources that can support notability, while the few that are real media are 3/4 short blurbs that read like press releases, and 1/4 a Q&A interview in which he's talking about himself -- and exactly zero of them actually support the claims that either "Ferrari" or "Mahine" ever actually charted on any notability-making record chart at all. Bearcat (talk) 05:23, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:10, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:10, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:10, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bearcat

You said this article is highly advertorialized, which part you think is advertisement? If we think like that then I believe no article in entire wikipedia is worth being on wikipedia. Few of the references I gave was from the biggest newspapers in India like Time Of India and from Daily hunt. If that is not notable then what else. This single have over million views in few songs which went viral, you can see views on youtube. He has songs on all biggest platforms in India, he has sung with few of the big singers, if that is not notable then what is?

Sumitpatelster (talk) 07:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Advertorialism" refers to the tone the article is written in — it is indeed possible to write an article about absolutely anybody who exists at all in either a neutrally encyclopedic or an advertorialized tone, but the vast majority of articles stay on the correct side of that line. This one, however, does not: see "was committed to staying on the right path, completing his education and working to help support his mother", "was inclined to music and singing from a young age", "kept his passion of learning music", none of which are things we should be saying in an encyclopedia because they don't represent substantive information that makes him more notable than other ambitious young singers.
Views on social media have exactly nothing to do with our notability criteria for musicians at all: a musician has to have a hit on an IFPI-certified national pop chart to pass NMUSIC's "charting hit" criterion, not a viral video on YouTube.
Having songs on "platforms" isn't a notability criterion for a musician either: the only "platform" that gets a musician over NMUSIC's "playlisted" criterion is a national radio network, not a streaming platform like Spotify or Napster.
Notability is not inherited, so people do not become notable just because they've worked with other people: either they have accomplished something themselves that passes NMUSIC, or they got nothing.
I already addressed in my nomination statement why the few references here that actually are media coverage aren't cutting it: they're all really short blurbs that aren't substantive, and state nothing about Gagan Sharma that would pass NMUSIC at all. And the rule on here is not that as long as a person has gotten his name into a newspaper twice, he's entitled to an article no matter how garbage the rest of the sourcing are: the rule is that all of the sources have to be reliable ones, and you can't use WordPress blogs or YouTube videos as references at all. Bearcat (talk) 13:54, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the information. Give me few days, i'll search for something like that Sumitpatelster (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bearcat I searched gagan sharma top songs on google and got this Screenshot of my desktop. Can we consider this type of result as a proof of notability? (Just looking for guidance) Sumitpatelster (talk) 18:09, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, screenshots of Google searches aren't evidence of notability. Media coverage in reliable sources is what we're looking for. Bearcat (talk) 18:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 19:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Because he is a on label, I am in favor of a KEEP, but page needs lot's of work and reformating of references, so if reformatted to make it look nicer, I would vote KEEP. Peter303x (talk) 03:28, 21 March 2019 (UTC) 20240516173211[reply]
Delete fails WP:SINGER, from what I can see, and WP:GNG. Maybe a case of WP:TOOSOON if his career takes off more. The article certainly needs a cleanup if kept. Burroughs'10 (talk) 18:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for your inputs, I will work on the article to keep it cleaner. Its just that My mom is not well so I'm don't get time for editing much. Please give me some time, I'll work on it. Poojasharma20 (talk) 04:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG.Upcoming not notable at this point.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:29, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the article needs cleanup but its certainly not the case of WP:TOOSOON, WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG. It has a lot of labels on google, which clearly tells the notability of this artist.

https://g.co/kgs/ZgWZKS (Album : Ambitions)

https://g.co/kgs/S2sA6a (Artist : Gagan Sharma)

Poojasharma20 (talk) 06:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination, since subject fails WP:NMUSIC. -The Gnome (talk) 09:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination, no reliable sources + not notable enough QueerEcofeminist^{"cite! even if you fight"!!!} [they/them/their] 17:04, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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