Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GOAT Store

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 19:38, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GOAT Store[edit]

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Promotion for non notable company bombarded with primary sources, passing mentions, non mentions and PR. Company lacks coverage from multiple independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:22, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't appreciate you marking my hard work up for deletion. A Wikipedian should help improve articles rather than just delete stuff. A simple Google search will show you countless pages for GOAT Store. Also their upcoming games like SLaVE and Hypertension: Harmony of Darkness are pretty popular and have a ton of notable sources reporting on it. I just haven't had the time to create pages for them.--Cube b3 (talk) 19:24, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How about you do me a favor and create a page for SLaVE?

http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/news/slave-revealed-for-dreamcasts-15th-anniversary/

http://www.retrogamenetwork.com/2014/09/10/sega-dreamcast-homebrew-slave-currently-in-the-works-scheduled-for-an-april-2015-release/

http://retrogamingmagazine.com/2014/09/14/new-game-sega-dreamcast-to-receive-slave-in-2015/

http://www.retrocollect.com/News/new-dreamcast-indie-slave-gameplay-footage-released.html

http://www.seganerds.com/2014/09/09/isotope-softworks-announces-dreamcast-shooter-slave/

http://www.thedreamcastjunkyard.co.uk/2014/11/new-slave-trailer-shows-off-gameplay.html

http://www.nowgamer.com/dont-miss-this-amazing-new-dreamcast-game/

http://www.gamefaqs.com/dreamcast/111989-slave

http://www.thedreamcastjunkyard.co.uk/2015/07/developer-interview-isotope-softworks.html

http://segabits.com/blog/2015/04/09/goat-store-provides-an-update-and-cover-art-for-indie-dreamcast-game-slave/

http://segabits.com/blog/2014/09/09/slave-announced-for-sega-dreamcast/

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2015/01/17/upcoming-sega-dreamcast-games-in-2015/127848/

Here are some foreign ones as well just in case you can speak other languages:

http://romhacking.ru/news/reliz_gejmplejnogo_video_3dfps_slave_na_sega_dreamcast/2014-11-16-2851

http://www.gameinfo.com.br/noticia/448-slave-novo-fps-para-dreamcast

http://www.eurogamer.it/articles/2014-11-17-news-videogiochi-un-nuovo-gioco-per-dreamcast-in-uscita-nel-2015-slave --Cube b3 (talk) 19:42, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"I don't appreciate you marking my hard work up for deletion" Editors do not own articles. Period. --TL22 (talk) 15:33, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Countless Google search results may certainly be true, but just because that it exists is not a reason to have it. Not notable enough to have its own article. Sources provided mention the GOAT Store in passing, like where people can buy new Dreamcast games. That does not meet WP:GNG. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 10:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't know enough about the gaming community to judge if this laundry-list of google hits conveys notability. I will say this, however: any company with a good marketing director can accomplish a similar amount of press coverage in industry and trade publications with persistent effort. Having worked in both marketing and publishing I've seen both sides of how this works, so I wouldn't assume importance or notability based on coverage on gamer websites or articles in industry publications. These entities are hungry for content. It's really not a great feat to accomplish coverage. I randomly selected 4 of these hits and they all read as if these websites are simply running either verbatim or re-wording of press releases passed on by GOAT store. I'm not claiming that is fact, just how it's coming across. My instinct is to vote delete but, again, I'm abstaining because my lack of a deep knowledge of gaming culture. ShelbyMarion (talk) 16:28, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to comment I respect that you have abstained from voting. While my writing skills leave a lot to be desired, I don't create articles for companies that I feel are not notable. GS has been around for over a decade, they organize a trade show every year that is attended by thousands upon thousands of people. They are the pioneers of indie games on Dreamcast. They have also made dev kits for Atari Jaguar. I skimmed through the previous AFD and what I understood was that GSP had been out of media. That is not the case this time as I have stated earlier. Their latest game has been covered by dozens of websites. English and Foreign a like.--Cube b3 (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The subject does not meet the WP:GNG. It's hard to tell for sure with this massive list, but with what I've looked for, they're either first party, not reliable, don't mention the subject at all, or mention the subject in a very trivial, passing mention sort of way. Not a single source is third party, reliable, and discussing the subject in significant detail. Not a single third party source is dedicated to the actual GOAT store itself, for example. Sergecross73 msg me 20:52, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, we've worked together in the past. How about you help me save this article?

All the information we need is out there and can be correlated with Google searches?--Cube b3 (talk) 06:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Cube b3 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. — Note to closing admin: Cube b3 (talk • contribs) appears to have a close connection with the subject of the article being discussed. [reply]

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