Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GKS Glinik Gorlice

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The result was keep. No consensus to delete; and after sources were added, a consensus to keep. (non-admin closure) Britishfinance (talk) 23:38, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GKS Glinik Gorlice[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Only source is a primary source. Fails WP:NTEAM. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~. Fails GNG. It is nice to some at least some sportcruft being cleaned. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:18, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Withdraw my delete per recent improvements and arguments given. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. Devoke water 07:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 09:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per sources found and added, seems to be notable. Giant Snowman 12:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I created this page after I found it at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports/Association football (soccer). It is on the Polish wiki so I didn't see any problem with adding it to the English one.

@P,TO 19104: It has been on the Polish wiki since 2009 so maybe you should have a look there. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 09:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a brand new article and hasn't been given time to develop, they are a team in the fifth level of the Polish league which plays in the Polish Cup, there are plenty of citations online if one wants to use them, except most are in Polish. This can be fixed to pass WP:GNG if one wants to add those sources, AfD is not cleanup. Govvy (talk) 10:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note I have linked this article with the Polish wiki article if anyone wants to check that on the languages section. Govvy (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I have examined the Polish Wikipedia entry and here's what I have found: 1) Most of the sources are in Polish (no suprise because of WP:SBEXT) 2) There is only one reliable newspaper source listed (WP:GNG requires multiple) 3) The article in Polish is about the length of this article. I think the article article in Polish was honestly created out of systematic bias to create articles about subjects inside of Poland. Also, by WP:3REFS, there should to be at least three reliable indpendent sources to establish notablity. The article in Polish only contains one reliable and independent source. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 13:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The pl:Nowiny (dziennik rzeszowski) which is used on pl wiki is a local newspaper from the town of Rzeszów, if we want to be generous, we could call it maybe provincial (Rzeszów Voivodeship). The weird thing is that most of the headlines seems to talk about hockey? Seems like the club had a hockey section that got written up about more than the soccer one. Anyway, a bit more on the NTEAM: Polish wiki has unreferenced claims that the club was at some point in the III League (see Polish football league system) and at one point earned 1/64 of the "Polish Cup" (but it doesn't specify if it was a soccer cup, or maybe the hokey one?). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The club website has a bunch of info about the history of the club, however its way beyond my translating ability. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Played in polish cup 2005. Ludost Mlačani (talk) 21:36, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Alex-h (talk) 08:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes notability. Alex-h (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Alex-h: NFootball is for athletes, not football clubs. Govvy (talk) 08:43, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Played in the cup, so meets WP:FOOTYN. Would be a clear case of systematic bias to delete an article on a club that has played in the fourth tier. Number 5 7 10:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep Played in the national cup, and in the third tier therefore passes the criteria for WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The team had its glory days long before the internet so it will be much harder to find sources. However, it seems to generate enough interest to have more than routine coverage recently despite its current league pyramid position gol24.pl Gazeta Krakowska Nowiny24 DziennikPolski 24 etc. etc. Whilst these are fairly routine, they from not that long ago, and also national newspapers; I would point out that although Gazeta Krakowska and Nowiny24 have a regional focus, they are different to the local newspapers in the UK or US for example, in that they would still be a source of national news, somewhat more akin to the Metro or Evening Standard in England.Abcmaxx (talk) 20:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, I'm not at all convinced that this pre-war club fails GNG. It's also hinted there that the club might draw notability from other sports. Geschichte (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The club now passes GNG, NFOOTBALL and NTEAM. @Piotrus, Devokewater, GiantSnowman, Alex-h, and P,TO 19104: are you willing to change your minds? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 12:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It cannot pass NFOOTBALL, that applies to people only. However I agree it is likely notable. Giant Snowman 12:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Govvy, I can change mine,Alex-h (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above and has played polish cup, so meets WP:FOOTYN.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:02, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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