Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frequency 1350

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete, with no prejudice toward (a) including this information in the University of Central Lancashire article and (b) making it sound a hell of a lot less like an advertisement. — Feb. 27, '06 [08:15] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

Frequency 1350 and Pluto (Student Newspaper)

Article about a student radio station. Although well written and neatly formatted, the article shows no evidence to demonstrate why this radio station is important. Zunaid 21:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

• Added Pluto (Student Newspaper). Reasoning as above with "radio station" replaced with "newspaper". Zunaid 21:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I wrote the article. The radio station has a potential audience of over 100,000 people. It is well known in the Preston area and similar radio stations have pages on Wikipedia that have not been scheduled for deletion. Please do not delete it. Joebloggsy 21:19, 18 February 2006

The same goes for the Pluto, it has a massive audience and similar articles exist already that have not been deleted. Joebloggsy 21:21, 18 February 2006

• It's not so much that we don't believe you, Joebloggsy, as much as is that the article doesn't show evidence of what you state here. Also, isn't "potential audience" a funny measure for a radio station's noteworthiness? Couldn't any radio station in the area make the same assertion? --Maxamegalon2000 21:38, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

As could any other student radio station listed on Wikipedia. It isn't possible for student radio stations to ascertain correct RAJAR figures as that centralises on commercial radio and BBC radio stations. Perhaps if you could explain what is meant by evidence and examples of what we could provide then we could reach a more amicable solution. (Unattributed)

• Check out the Student Radio Association page for other examples for student stations on Wikipedia. The university is the fourth largest in the UK. What would you suggest I add to the articles to make them worthy? Cheers, Joebloggsy. --Joebloggsy 21:50, 18 February 2006
• Plus, Pluto has three celebrity writers, which is of interest. Joebloggsy 22:41, 18 February 2006
• Here's my case for keeping the articles...

1. They are integral parts of one of the UK's largest higher education institutions.
2. Frequency is one of only a handful of radio stations in Preston, a major North-West city.
3. The university has one of the best journalism courses in the country, so these media have, and will continue to develop journalists who go on to be significant.
4. Other student radio stations and newspapers have been on Wikipedia without being deleted. (See the Student Radio Association page for examples).
5. Pluto has guest writers that include Mark Lawrenson, Tom Finney, and Jim Bowen and has been mentioned several times in the national press because of this.
6. Frequency often hosts meetings for the Student Radio Association, and is an integral member.
7. The two media get as many readers/listeners as any non-student media, and would not get deleted if they weren't student-based.
8. Pluto has been running since 1985 - making it one of the country's oldest student newspapers.

Joebloggsy 00:31, 19 February 2006

• Delete both. Slight merge into University of Central Lancashire. This information belongs on the university's own website. Stifle 11:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep both, Joebloggsy makes a good case. Kappa 13:12, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.