Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Freddie Brown (American football)

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The result was delete. Detailed analysis of the sources showing the coverage is not indepth has not been refuted and detailed analysis is always given more weight then assertion. Spartaz ^Humbug! 10:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Freddie Brown (American football)[edit]

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Fails WP:NGRIDIRON, never played in the NFL. His college career was not distinguished enough to pass WP:NCOLLATH. I'm not finding enough coverage to see a WP:GNG pass, although the existence of Fred Brown (wide receiver), who is notable, makes it hard to find coverage about this specific player. Hog Farm _Bacon 00:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm _Bacon 00:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm _Bacon 00:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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comment I'm not ready to make a call on this one, I'm finding some coverage of his college career--but there's a lot of "noise" in the search engines so it may take some time.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:44, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly a non-notable football player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC) removed contentious material about living person per policy WP:BLP.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Was selected in the NFL draft, Also per [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. This is based on another article. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 13:29, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Being selected in the NFL draft is not a sign of notability, you actually have to play to move towards notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the sources found above seem to point to passing WP:GNG based on coverage. Subject has multiple mentions in the news speaking to WP:IMPACT of his paying ability at the college level. I ignored the bleacherreport and blocku sources, but coverage New York Times, Fort Worth Star-Telegram, and Billings Gazette point toward impact on a national stage. These should be added to the article to avoid confusion in the future. That he has not played in the NFL is irrelevant because of WP:GNG is already met.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   Kadzi   (talk) 09:49, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Agree with the above comments; although sourcing is a little tricky to find, reliable sourcing exists and needs to be added to the page. Meets GNG regardless of NFL status. Rainchecker (talk) 14:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Editorofthewiki's sources. Ejgreen77 (talk) 07:10, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the sources found by Editorofthewiki above are either clear passing mentions or from not-so-great sources like "BlockU" and "CheeseHeadTV". The Fort-Worth Star Telegram article has one sentence about him: "Utah QB Brian Johnson completed 7 of 9 passes on the drive, the last going for a 9-yard touchdown to Freddie Brown." The New York Times article mentions his name four times but only as stat recaps. I did a quick search of Newspapers.com for other articles, but found mostly the same types of articles that only mention Brown in passing. Eagles 24/7 (C) 15:49, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep the player Meets WP:BASIC. There is enough here for WP:N. Wm335td (talk) 18:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per Eagles247's analysis of the sources, I don't believe the subject meets WP:BASIC at all. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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