Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Florence Finch
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to List of supercentenarians from Oceania. There is strong and near-unanimous consensus here against having a stand-alone article. Less clear whether delete, redirect, or merge is the desired result, and if redirect, to where. I went with the more specific redirect target. If people disagree on the target, that's a matter to be hashed out on article talk pages. Also, leaving the history intact, so if people want to merge any additional information, hash that out on the talk pages as well. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Florence Finch[edit]
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The two sources here (one is dead though) seem to be WP:ROUTINE obituaries rather than evidence of notability. Suggest deletion. Ricky81682 (talk) 20:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete there is just no claim of notability except she was pretty old when she died. See [1] for some really good rational. Legacypac (talk) 09:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as being on List of oldest people by country is sufficient mention. I like the notable because they were not notable for so long comment in the Astrid Zachrison AfD discussion. NealeFamily (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_World's_Oldest_People#Proof_that_all_supercentenarians_are_notable. EEng (talk) 02:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Merge This source GRG is regarded as reliable, and was sixth oldest person, though not enough coverage for a standalone article. Valoem talk contrib 15:37, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete then redirect to List of oldest people by country. Subject fails WP:GNG There's no significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Human longevity is an important (and notable) subject for any decent encyclopedia. But biographies of every long-lived person, simply because they were long-lived, is not in compliance with our rules. Happily, some of the folks who originally salted our encyclopedia with hundreds of these stubs have hit on a better solution. David in DC (talk) 15:43, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- David in DC Are you suggesting a merge is unreasonable for a person that was the sixth oldest in the world at one point with minor coverage? Valoem talk contrib 15:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Heck no, not unreasonable. Just not the option that seems best to me here. David in DC (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Shouldn't we try to keep the information here? I mean there are younger supercentenarians that have receive more coverage unfortunately, not sure why this happened, but preserving is better here I urge you to reconsider a merge/redirect instead of deleting, I feel one day she may receive more coverage or perhaps sources we missed ... High Beam anyone? Valoem talk contrib 15:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Heck no, not unreasonable. Just not the option that seems best to me here. David in DC (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- David in DC Are you suggesting a merge is unreasonable for a person that was the sixth oldest in the world at one point with minor coverage? Valoem talk contrib 15:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone can come up with more coverage. EEng (talk) 16:39, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Merge with List of supercentenarians from Oceania. Agree with Valoem. Worthy of recognition for being an all-time national record holder, but insufficient coverage for a standalone article. Enough for a mini biography. -- Ollie231213 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Why do we need a mini-bio? There is nothing in this article that isn't already available in one of the five or so tables she's on. CommanderLinx (talk) 10:42, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Oldest ever person in a country is notable. This is called common sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:26, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:27, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete there is no inherent notability in being the oldest in the country especially in a country with a small population. LibStar (talk) 13:29, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Replace with redirect to one of the other articles that mention her, eg, List of oldest people by country, List of supercentenarians from Oceania, List of British supercentenarians. This is akin to a pseudo-biography of a person notable for only one event. Nurg (talk) 09:15, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to List of supercentenarians from Oceania. Per above and David in DC. This article tells us nothing about her other than her name, age and country of birth/death. Not seeing anything to merge either. CommanderLinx (talk) 10:42, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Delete I am not seeing evidence of the type of coverage that would satisfy WP:N. Redirect can (and usually does) follow deletion. Canadian Paul 06:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.