Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fletcher Beasley

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The result was delete. Consensus indicates that the sources offered are not independent enough to satisfy the independence from the subject criteria in the notability guidelines. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:08, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fletcher Beasley[edit]

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No significant coverage in independent reliable sources. —swpb^T 13:00, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —swpb^T 13:14, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This is one of those situations where we need to "stack" notability but when we do we get to WP:N, combining artistic accomplishments with academic work and social welfare outreach work. His film credits alone are borderline, but adding what else he has done: This individual appears to be a notable instructor in the field of MIDI orchestration and film scoring. I do not have HighBeam access, but putting together these two snippets, this is one example of significant coverage of his work with troubled adolescents: [1] + [2] (the Daily News article; the other two don't appear to be anything); in addition, I am finding a number of sources linked to his work on electronic orchestration, including this, A BMI workshop, a video series, and his is an instructor in film scoring at UCLA, with info here, ( and more links here), here, here and there are some bios of him [ https://www.thescl.com/Fletcher-Beasley here], and this minor bio, the last admittedly weaker as it looks like content copied from WP, but notes he's a trainer for a major program. Montanabw^(talk) 15:37, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- How many times do you need to be told that non-independent and trivial mention sources like these do not stack. WP:GNG: "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". There is no "either or". There is no leeway in GNG, or anywhere else in WP:N, for this idea. There is no policy, guideline, precedent, or anything else that agrees with you, and you know that very, very well. One more to a growing documented list of misrepresentations. —swpb^T 17:50, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - Please refrain from "you" statements and further personalizing the debate. I am looking at WP:BASIC: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability..." that's what I mean by "stacking." Also, "People who meet the basic criteria may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria." In other words, adding up everything he has done, we get to notable. Montanabw^(talk) 05:31, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    - You conveniently ignore the word "independent" in that passage, which we clearly do not have. —swpb^T 13:09, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can't find too much of significance in these references beyond what one might expect from someone doing their job in industries that credit individual contributors. Most are far from independent sources. I also note that this article was started by the same more-or-less single purpose account that created his wife's article, Danielle Eubank. The only thing going for it are the inbound links, but then again someone had to write the music for video games et al, but without some critical reviews, or awards specifically for the scores, is this significant? Derek Andrews (talk) 15:57, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable composer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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