Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Five Minutes to Twelve

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:03, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Five Minutes to Twelve[edit]

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Lacks even the IMDb votes, fails to meet WP:NFILM and GNG. Alex^{discussion ★} 09:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Could not find enough info to justify notability, though I'm admittedly unfamiliar with the language of the film. Award that the film won seems to be at a film festival of unclear importance (award mentioned in rkt.rs article/interview). A google translation of the Serbian Wikipedia article (also nominated for deletion) consists of "5 to 12 ( Eng. Five Minutes to Twelve) is a Serbian short film from the 2013th The director of the film is Elijah Dodić and starring Natalija Radic , Andrew Colic , Milena Novakovic and Vanja Todorovic . Film speaks on the topic of juvenile unwanted pregnancy in Serbia. [1] The film won first place at the Short Film Festival Tik-Tak Fest 2013th [2]" --Agyle (talk) 15:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Agyle: You're right. Award was fairly trivial, a non-important competition organized for elementary schoolers. Alex^{discussion ★} 17:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, based on the Serbian wikipedia article deletion discussion, the festival had 14 entries, on the topic of unwanted pregnancies, from 8th-12th grade students. Elementary school, in the US, typically means school up to the 5th or 6th grade, around age 10-12. --Agyle (talk) 22:14, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Info on IMDb proves its importance. --Dodić Ilija 21:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Martin451 23:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb includes user-submitted content, and uses different inclusion criteria than Wikipedia, including being “of general public interest.” That is met by any work that is publicly displayed, including any video uploaded for public viewing on the internet (e.g. YouTube). So inclusion on IMDb does not indicate notability, as Wikipedia defines it. From Dodić Ilija's name, I would guess this is the creator of the work, and is not an unbiased judge of this issue. Please don't take this personally, I sincerely hope you become a well known filmmaker, but right now I do not think this film nor its creator meet Wikipedia's notability standard. --Agyle (talk) 22:14, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Agyle: The organizers of the movie festival have created this article, if you think that it doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability standard I respect your opinion. Just to clarify, I didn't mean nothing bad when I wrote that IMDb proves its importance. --Dodić Ilija 22:27, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. Martin451 23:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Serbian:(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Martin451 23:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. While this short film exists and has screened and has won a minor award, it fails having enough coverage to meet WP:NF. If non-English sources are brought forth, ping me so my !vote might be reconsidered. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 07:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero | My Talk 05:33, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment ″The organizers of the movie festival have created this article″ – here's one more reason to delete, a conflict of interest. Alex^{discussion ★} 20:25, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.