Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First day of school

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Academic year. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:23, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First day of school[edit]

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This is WP:LISTCRUFT. Almost entirely unsourced. There's nothing here that enages with broader cultural or historical importance of the "first day of school" and instead is just original research noting when different countries happen to start their school year. While some of it might be common knowledge (the fact that most northern hemisphere school years start in early fall) that very fact makes the usefulness of an encyclopedia article in question. ZimZalaBim ^talk 03:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm inclined to agree, the current article has no useful value whatsoever. It's a real pity, because a good article could be written. In Germany, for example, there is a lovely custom that on their very first day of school, in what we in the UK would call reception year, the kids take enormous paper cones with them, filled with goodies to share with the other kids. This sort of custom is of genuine encyclopaedic interest, and similar things must exist in other countries (and could be sourced). If anyone wrote an article like that, I'd be delighted. Elemimele (talk) 07:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Purely for reference, here's a not-great source that would provide someone with a foot-hold into useful ideas of how a valuable article could have been written: [1] Elemimele (talk) 20:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, poorly-sourced and likely contains OR, and topic seems unlikely to have significant secondary analysis. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:36, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I would support keep provided the article is completely rewritten with a different focus, as discussed on the article's talk page. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 18:53, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Schools. Shellwood (talk) 21:36, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:DINC. The article is largely unsourced and poorly written, but per WP:BEFORE C1-3 and all of D, those problems are not valid reasons for deletion. Source do exist (some of them in the article, others on a quick BEFORE search), and the article can be used as a baseline for creating something better. As Elemimele points out, a good article could be written [that is] of genuine encyclopaedic interest...and could be sourced. Once that is shown, an AfD is no longer the right venue for improving Wikipedia. We need to remove unsourced info and WP:OR, not delete the article. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 14:03, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've started a discussion on the article's talk page as I think this is an exceptional situation where it might be appropriate to delete nearly everything in the article and repurpose it, which might satisfy everyone. I'm suggesting we discuss there rather than here to avoid cluttering this AfD, and keep the !votes clear for the closing admin, but if anyone wants to discuss here, we can shift it. Elemimele (talk) 16:22, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to academic year. There's very little here about the first day except insofar as it's describing variation in the academic year across countries... and we already have an article about that. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 02:16, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merging any notable and sourced material into academic year is sensible. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 04:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is more support for a Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge seems ok, the list as it stands now doesn't really explain why this day is important. Oaktree b (talk) 13:48, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to academic year. Reasonable search term and possibly a reasonable topic for spin-out at a later date. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.