Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fireproof My Marriage

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Fireproof (film). MBisanz ^talk 22:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fireproof My Marriage[edit]

Notability is not established. While there are 4 "citations", none of them are independent from the subject matter. Andrew c ^[talk] 17:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge into Fireproof (film). Note, CitizenLink, Florida Baptist Witness, and the Baptist Press are all independent of the subject. TheAE talk/sign 17:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CitizenLink is owed by Focus on the Family, one of the partners of "Fireproof My Marriage". How are press releases from organizations hosting seminars for this group "independent"? How are you defining independent? That said, I would not oppose a merge to the movie's article.-Andrew c ^[talk] 18:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: no substantive third party coverage. CitizenLink is part of Focus on the Family and so is not independent. Florida Baptist Witness & Baptist Press coverage is simply "Routine news coverage of such things as announcements" (WP:NOT#NEWS) of an upcoming seminar. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 18:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The CitizenLink article, already problematic, doesn't seem to address the specific subject of this article. Brief entries announcing meetings in a newspaper's calendar are insufficient to establish notability. There isn't even a writeup about it in any Christian press outlet, which might help establish through other sources beyond the group's own website what it is and why it is notable. Until such references appear, it should be deleted. Mike Doughney (talk) 18:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Fireproof (film). Worth a mention there, but not notable enough to stand on its own since it seems to be just an event or series of events not discussed in depth by secondary sources. It will find more interested readers if merged. Steve Dufour (talk) 18:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/merge This is associated with Fireproof (film) which is very notable. Disentangling coverage of the film, the website and the general programme seems problematic but the topics seem sufficiently different to keep separate for now. Colonel Warden (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.