Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finally Punk

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete Naconkantari 18:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Finally Punk

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Vanity page. Two speedy templates were placed on this page but removed by the creator. Band is not notable, the "sources" given here are youtube and myspace pages. Would go for speedy, but seems the templates were getting removed. Gekedo 11:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - now asserts notability however there are verifiability issues. MER-C 11:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Not sure Pitchfork media is a notable source, not easy to get reviewed there, and sounds like they have both UK and US distro through reputable non-vanity orgs like Kill Rock Stars and Rough Trade. They have also toured. Does this satisfy WP:Music? --Amists 12:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep I was the one who tagged this for speedy, and I removed the tag after assertion of notability was added. I will admit that it's not a band or genre I know anything about. Per Amists, they do seem to be reviewed by people who cover this niche. Also, the main thing I see that puts them over the line for WP:MUSIC is a national tour, with an Australian band called Kiosk, and search for both band names together does confirm concert dates across the country. Fan-1967 14:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Looks like self-publicity. The aspiration to notability is not notability. WMMartin 17:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I am in the band and this page was never made for vanity-sake i can assure you. We were just trying to share our music + like a lot of others, we're not taken seriously because we're women in punk music. Unfortunately, some just can't seem to come to grasps with this concept. I respect everyone's opinion + you are free to do to the page as you wish. If there is anything I myself can do to make the page more understanding, I'm open for any criticism. I strongly stand by keeping it up, and was hoping too keep this kind of as a memoire. Thank You. Bigjerk 3:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, self released CDLP a*nd a support tour do not meet WP:MUSIC. Nuttah68 23:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep, "are the après-riot grrrl racket of petulant girlscreams" - it sounds like PFM has actually written their article for them. Woeful writing, but probably barely notable enough. Lankiveil 01:26, 11 November 2006 (UTC).
• Keep Nuttah68 quoted "self released CDLP and a support tour do not meet WP:MUSIC." There are other means of notability due to the Wonk Records release of their 7", along with their tour being nationally successful Tobi Vail of Bikini Kill strongly encouraged concert-goers and has supported the band since the beginning. 12:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.173.193 (talk • contribs)

• The page is inadvertently seeming more and more "vain" due to all the "notability" that is being asked/required of it. The author is having to add more and more sources, ultimately seeming like a self-righteous page. At this rate, the notability will then be insignificant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.173.193 (talk • contribs)

• Strong delete - NN, "described as the après-riot grrrl racket of petulant girlscreams" - by whom? One can only surmise, themselves...

01:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

• delete per WP:RS. Essentially a one or two-editor article on a myspace band, with self-released album. Main editor User:Bigjerk admits to being in the band, thus conflict of interest. The subject may have embarked on a nationwide tour, but even if true, it appears to have been called as third or fourth support bands in some cases in weblinks which are mainly blog entries. User:Bigjerk once again removed AfD tag yesterday during the current debate. Ohconfucius 04:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
• Pete Fenelon, attention to the mattter, you'd notice that pitchfork media described them as the "apres-riot grrrl..." on the column they wrote.
• Delete per WP:Band. One review in even a moderately popular internet publication does not establish notability, to my mind. On top of that, a band member above said: "I am in the band. . . We were just trying to share our music. . . I strongly stand by keeping it up, and was hoping too keep this kind of as a memoire." The problem is that WP, unlike Myspace or Youtube, is not a place to share music or to build a memoir. It's an encyclopedia.--TheOtherBob 23:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
• I'm fine with having the page removed. It's an obvious strive, trying to keep it up. Hopefully sometime down the road someone will make one when there's more notability to show. Thanks. Bigjerk 16:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.