Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ferhat Odabaşı

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The result was keep. JForget 01:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ferhat Odabaşı[edit]

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fails notability? (I can't find anything notable on him).. not to mention quaility guidelines of WP:BIO Alan - talk 00:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. See these references from Google news: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Ferhat+Odabasi%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Search+Archives and this Google translation of that search - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

and what has he done that's notable? has he won many awards? is he in a hall of fame? is he the highest paid player in the league? exactly what makes him notable, and why isn't it in the article so it passes Quality guidelines? Alan - talk 02:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Athlete, which states that "People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis" are considered notable. — Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's the additional requirements.. it's failing the basic requirements Alan - talk 08:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The 'additional requirements' state: A person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards. Jujutacular ^T · C 13:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - assuming the article is accurate, he has made fully professional appearances. matt91486 (talk) 20:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Based on the TFF reference on the article, he has only played for TFF First League teams, or in a lower division. I don't know if the Turkish second division is fully proffessional or not. If it is then Keep since he would clearly meet WP:ATHLETE. If not, Delete since he would fail that guideline and he fails WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - article about athlete who has played in the top (fully-pro) league of Turkey (albeit briefly) and is the subject of numerous coverage in the Turkish press (e.g., this). I'm struggling to find much English-language coverage, but that's not reason enough to delete. Jogurney 22:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes ATHLETE having played in Süper Lig, sources provided, additional coverage is out there if anyone has a mind to improve the article.--ClubOranje^T 09:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When did he play in the Süper Lig? Accoridng to the TFF source, his time at Gençlerbirliği OFTAŞ was while they where in the First League. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He played in the Süper Lig during August and September 2007 (check either of the Guardian Stats Centre or TFF sources for confirmation). It's only five matches, but it should be enough, and he's made 81 second level appearances, which is probably a fully-pro level. Jogurney (talk) 13:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I completely missed the fact that he played for Gençlerbirliği OFTAŞ in the Super Lig when I checked the sources. He clearly passes WP:ATHLETE, and should therefore be kept. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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