Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fake Sun Wukong

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The result was redirect to List of Journey to the West characters. If someone feels strongly that it should be redirected elsewhere feel free to change it. J04n(talk page) 21:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fake Sun Wukong[edit]

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Going to get nommed sooner or later, so self-nom it is. Deletion rationale: Fails general notability guidelines (?) ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 15:01, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I'm leaning towards weak keep as there IS some coverage and this is one of the more prominent characters in the novel... A bit like the bald man with the long nose. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 15:05, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Journey to the West. It's a Fox! (What did I break) 16:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Based on my knowledge, there is only "Sun Wukong", and no such thing as "Fake Sun Wukong". It also doesn't really make sense. People usually call the monkey "Sun Wukong", not "Fake ~". If something is nonexistant and you call it "fake", then shouldn't fairy tale characters have a "fake" in front of their names? Arctic Kangaroo 16:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Wukong, as everybody knows, is the main protagonist throughout the book, whereas Fake Sun Wukong is the six-eared monkey which appears in the lengthy chapter titled 真假孙悟空 (also 真假美猴王), in which this rare cosmic monkey takes up the form of Sun Wukong and steals their stuff. Really one of the more mention-worthy Journey to the West characters. A merge (to Sun Wukong) sounds sensible to me. @Arctic Kangaroo: Improve on your knowledge of Chinese literature ;) ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Wouldn't this be better off as a section under Sun Wukong? ~~My perception is that this is an alter ego, rather than a completely different character within the story and~~ I don't think it's notable separately from it. Funny ^Pika! 17:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I confused the character with something else. Funny ^Pika! 17:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To an extent, it can be classified as an "alter ego" -- the six-eared monkey seized upon Sun Wukong's negative thoughts to metamorphose into Wukong's appearance. That is, only externally, and the difference could still be told from beneath. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Sun Wukong - I agree with FunnyPika; this character is not sufficiently independently notable to justify its own article, but a mention at Sun Wukong might be appropriate. Neelix (talk) 03:31, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Merge to List of Journey to the West characters, or maybe Sun Wukong - notability is not inherited; just because Fake Sun Wukong is a character in a notable novel does not make him automatically notable. Fails the WP:GNG. ~ Satellizer el Bridget ~ ^(Talk) 07:58, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Chinese readers may find this useful in determining notability. Remember, WP:RSUE. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.