Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evangelical-Reformed Church of the Canton Basel-Stadt

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 05:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Evangelical-Reformed Church of the Canton Basel-Stadt[edit]

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No evidence or claim of notability, the article relies on primary sources I could not find independent, relibale sources on the subject. Fails WP:GNG Flat Out let's discuss it 23:25, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Editors interested in this discussion may be interested in the article Evangelical-Reformed Church of the Canton of Lucerne, created on 30 March 2014. I have no opinion on deletion. Cnilep (talk) 03:50, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - State church of Basle is claim of notability. To find the GNG sources you will have to go to German language sources, probably, but if it has existed for 400 years the information will be out there somewhere. All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 23:52, 31 March 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Comment if its out there, I can't find it. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Does appear to be pretty notable as a state church. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Question: Wouldn't the "state church" be the Swiss Reformed Church? The article says this is a "member of the Schweizener Evangelische Kirchenbund" (Swiss Evangelical Church-group), but I don't know if these are the same thing. Again according to this article, it is the "Reformed denomination in the city of Basel", which sounds like it may be a regional section of a "state church". Cnilep (talk) 00:04, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - (Don't know why I didn't think to check this earlier...) The interwiki link from Swiss Reformed Church is de:Schweizer Reformierte Kirchen; the interwiki from de:Schweizerischer Evangelischer Kirchenbund is Federation of Swiss Protestant Churches. That article includes Basel-Stadt in a long (26 items) list of members. Cnilep (talk) 01:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but consider moving. I rather doubt that this church, as it exists today, is notable enough for a standalone article. However, historically, it (or rather its predecessor before the canton of Basle and its church were each split in two in 1833) was one of the more important early Reformed Protestant churches - not as influential as those of Zurich or Geneva, but not far short either. I can find at least one entire book (Burnett, Amy Nelson (2006). Teaching the Reformation : Ministers and Their Message in Basel, 1529-1629. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780198041658.) on the church's first century, and I suspect that there is more on nearly the same scale to be found. We might well do better with an article on the predecessor church, talking about the current one in a shortish "Later history" or "Legacy" section - but even so, we would probably want that article to include almost all the information currently in this article, even though restructured and greatly expanded with information about the church's most important period. PWilkinson (talk) 12:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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